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Old 06-20-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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Its already been mentioned, but bares repeating; Racists don't usually come out into the open. This is for various reasons. Its likely he never said an openly racist thing to his black friend. He may even thought of his black friend as 'not really black', 'not one of them', and made him an exception.
I doubt a racist would think a singular black person is somehow not "black". If the shooter was racist, he would have not engaged on a personal level with a black person.


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He chose elderly women and male church goers instead. He would've got his ass handed to him if he said the wrong thing to his black friend and knew it. Racism is built from fear. He is no different.
I do not like the assumption that his friend would have resorted to violence; perhaps his friend would have used wisdom and assisted the shooter in righting his mentality.

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Personally, I think the black dude feels pity for him. Everything he says indicates pity; this Dylann wasn't on his radar, most likely was a virgin, isolated and a figure of loneliness. From that perspective, his view on Dylann is understandable, but irrelevant.
I agree his view is irrelevant, but it might be relevant in the pursuit of hate crime charges. Reason is that the defense would have something to refute the racism, as in a racist would not be friends with a black person. This would also lend credibility to the mental illness defense as they can demonstrate a rather rapid descent into being a racist, and that if he truly was, he would not know this black person, so his actions recently up the shooting were a result of a mental illness. (I am playing defense here, I already stated somewhere that I do not think is mentally ill and it does not even matter if he was).
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Old 06-20-2015, 01:34 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Now, I do have a question..his family has had absolutely nothing bad said about them at all..My research indicates something very very different...It sure does explain a lot about this 21 year old. He is filled with hate, reputation for being a bully in high school.. Why hasn't the media jumped all over this?? Why would this judge in the bond hearing with days of this massacre..and victim's family right there in front of him..declare that DR's family are victim's too?? Last I read..they are still alive??
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Charleston shooter Dylann Roof's 'violent' father beat stepmother | Daily Mail Online
Reading that article makes me wonder what became of his real mother...I don't think it mentioned her at all.
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Old 06-20-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Reason is that the defense would have something to refute the racism, as in a racist would not be friends with a black person.


I disagree with that assessment.

There are plenty of men out there who hate women, yet continue to have relationships with them. Many relationships, because eventually their hatred starts showing and they have to move on to the next unsuspecting woman.

Also, he could have been friends with this person, but he stated that it was the Trayvon Martin case that started him off to do what he did. When did he read about that? Was he still 'friends' with the Black guy after that?
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Old 06-20-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Really anyone that can do what he did has a screw loose. From what I've heard, Dylan has serious metal health issues...doesn't mean he shouldn't be put out of his misery imo.
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Old 06-20-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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Maybe he was planning to take out his black friend later ... He did attempt to befriend the people he murdered one hour before killing them. Psychopath.
That's a valid point to consider, he was one evil bastard.
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Old 06-20-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Reading that article makes me wonder what became of his real mother...I don't think it mentioned her at all.

This is all I could find on Dylann's birth mother...Yikes!!

Charleston Church Shooter Dylann Storm Roof


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Dylann’s parents Franklin Bennett Roof and Amy Coles Roof were married on February 20, 1998, when Amy was roughly five months pregnant. Their daughter, Amber, was born four months later on June 15, 1988. Nearly two years later, they split up in June, 1990
You can see by my underlined portion of the quote from article that it was a TYPO given the timeline outlined.

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At the time, neither Franklin nor Amy could have predicted that they would reunite to have yet another child, Dylann, together in 1994 — nor that he would grow up to be a sick killer.

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Old 06-20-2015, 01:55 PM
 
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Of course he didn't say anything racist to you.

Dude weighs 80 pounds soak and wet. He didn't want his butt kicked.

He might think he'll be safe in prison hanging out with the aryan brotherhood (AB), but even THEY will make him someone's woman in the penn. He can't fight, so what would he be good for?
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Old 06-20-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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Of course he didn't say anything racist to you.

Dude weighs 80 pounds soak and wet. He didn't want his butt kicked.

He might think he'll be safe in prison hanging out with the aryan brotherhood (AB), but even THEY will make him someone's woman in the penn. He can't fight, so what would he be good for?
What, you are saying black people automatically react with violence to verbal racist statements?

I would think you would expect a better reaction out of blacks, instead of stereotyping them as resorting to violence every chance they get.
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Old 06-20-2015, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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He absolutely is a racist POS and had racist motivations for his crime. And I think he was mentally deranged as well. The two are not mutually exclusive. But then again, I think racism is a mental defect as it is entirely illogical on its face. Makes no sense whatsoever like other irrational phobias make no sense.

Of note, it's College of Charleston, not university. Just over one block away from the church. My daughter attends there so a bit scary for her father and I.
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Old 06-20-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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He may not have always been a racist but I firmly believe his anger was racially motivated.

For whatever reason something in his head went haywire and he did an indefensible, horrible thing.
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