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Old 06-27-2015, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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What is to stop this Supreme Court from applying additional punctuation to the Constitution and changing the meaning to what was written?

When will they apply the "intention" of he 14th Amendment and NOT allow anchor babies of illegals from being American citizens? The amendment was written to protect the children of former slaves.
Additional punctuation, you mean like "exclamation marks and commas"?

Apply the 'intention' of the 14th amendment? that happened in 1898 (United States V. Wong Kim Ark) in which the Supreme Court declared that the child of "alien"parents born on US soil is a US Citizen. Good luck with getting the Supreme Court to undo one of their decisions.
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Old 06-27-2015, 09:09 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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What is to stop this Supreme Court from applying additional punctuation to the Constitution and changing the meaning to what was written?

When will they apply the "intention" of he 14th Amendment and NOT allow anchor babies of illegals from being American citizens? The amendment was written to protect the children of former slaves.
The better question is when will legislators quit having SCOTUS do their job and make them go back to what SCOTUS is supposed to be doing which is NOT legislating from the bench.
SCOTUS as a Judicial Branch is there to decide whether something is legal or not and if not strike it down effectively telling the legislators to try again.

Their JOB is not to create or add meanings to laws.
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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Wow....the bolded part has "drama queen" written all over it.

Medical costs can be negotiated if you don't have insurance. You don't die because of a tooth ache, and you don't need to sit by the curb, in agony, with a simple laceration.

There are literally THOUSANDS of places nationwide that will take care of things such as this, and you can negotiate the cost with them. Completely YOUR choice, of course.

And if you know how to negotiate, you'll likely pay far less than you would with a high-deductible Obamcare policy.
You'll sing a different tune when you've been hospitalized for a week in the ICU, intubated, and running up a bill into six figures. You can't "negotiate" your way out of that.

The opponents of the Affordable Care Act get sillier all the time.
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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As an adult, yes it IS my choice. Just as when I hit my head on a tree and blood was pouring down my face and soaking my hair. Heard CRACK when I hit my head. I HAD insurance, but refused to go to the ER. That one was 4 years ago. Lucky? No, I know First Aid and how to apply compression to stop bleeding, which I did on myself. Guess it worked, huh? Still here???? Lucky. Well, yeah, my luck will run out since I am pushing 70; medicine or no medicine. I prefer the latter.
and next you are going to claim that you have declined medicare coverage, right?
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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They should make it a law that the scotus has to use Obamacare for their healthcare.
You seem to misunderstand the system. Obamacare is not healthcare. It's access to private insurance. So the SCOTUS would go on the exchange, pick a Privately Insured Platinum plan, and pay the premiums. What would be so terrible about that? In actuality, they are all eligible for Medicare(an actual government healthcare program) and most likely use that for their care. You can't say they don't use Medicare. You and I are not privy to their private medical arrangements.
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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As an adult, yes it IS my choice. Just as when I hit my head on a tree and blood was pouring down my face and soaking my hair. Heard CRACK when I hit my head. I HAD insurance, but refused to go to the ER. That one was 4 years ago. Lucky? No, I know First Aid and how to apply compression to stop bleeding, which I did on myself. Guess it worked, huh? Still here???? Lucky. Well, yeah, my luck will run out since I am pushing 70; medicine or no medicine. I prefer the latter.
Good for you. I wish more people would quit running off to the doctor every time they bash their head or have some minor issue. That's a huge part of what drives the cost of insurance up.
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Additional punctuation, you mean like "exclamation marks and commas"?

Apply the 'intention' of the 14th amendment? that happened in 1898 (United States V. Wong Kim Ark) in which the Supreme Court declared that the child of "alien"parents born on US soil is a US Citizen. Good luck with getting the Supreme Court to undo one of their decisions.
I think the Republicans should proclaim a Jihad on the 14th Amendment. It seems to periodically come around and bite them on their shiney heinies more often than not.
Make the repeal of the 14th the showcase issue for the 2016 elections. Demonize all the anchor babies. See how far that gets them.
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Not a great day for those working in the health care field. It is what it is, I don't worry about things out of my control.
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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Health Care CANNOT be a right. Unless we are talking about someone stopping you from applying band-aids.

Rights require no other person to be involved to exercise them. They require no input from another. They require no work from another.

People, including out *laugh* constitutional scholars on the SCOTUS, seem to understand that and put agenda before everything else.


We also have a right to travel freely, do I get my Porsche? We have the right to free speech, do I get my own TV station? We have a right to own firearms, should the government unlock the armory for me (yes, but that's beside the point)? People who scoff at these notions fail to understand that we are LITERALLY going to either: a) ration healthcare a la Canada or b) pay such extraordinary amounts in taxes that having the government buy a Porsche for everyone will seem like a deal.
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:29 PM
 
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Health Care CANNOT be a right. Unless we are talking about someone stopping you from applying band-aids.

Rights require no other person to be involved to exercise them. They require no input from another. They require no work from another.

People, including out *laugh* constitutional scholars on the SCOTUS, seem to understand that and put agenda before everything else.
THAT ^ makes no sense
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