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Old 03-15-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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Many parents today (mainly helicopter parents) are creating a ME generation with absolutely no tolerance, patience or empathy for others.
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Old 03-15-2016, 12:50 PM
 
Location: La La Land
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Not believing that a non-parent should paddle a child with a piece of wood has nothing to do with "snowflakism". Even as a parent, if you paddle a child with a piece of wood, you haven't got the intellect to be a parent.

Generations of polite, well adjusted adults compared with the latest crop of social mutants would tend to prove you incorrect.
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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Actually it is in fact strong communication skills that provoke many a punch.

Often one person is goading the other, deliberating aggravating their opponent to the point where violence is the next "natural" step.

One person uses verbal violence to achieve their goals and then objects to someone responding with physical violence.

In fact the courts take provocation into account when deciding these cases. If you verbally provoke don't expect to walk out of court scot-free.



I am not a lawyer but I would like to play one on TV, well if the money was good.
No, no, no and no.

Words are completely different than fists. There is no such thing as verbal violence. There is no physical harm done with words. And violence is not a "natural" step.

Whatever happened to "sticks and stones"?
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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And the bigger deterrent was that you'd get in worse trouble when you went home and your parents found out you got in trouble in school.
That was also when parents didn't go to bat for their kids no matter what horrible thing they've done.
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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Many parents today (mainly helicopter parents) are creating a ME generation with absolutely no tolerance, patience or empathy for others.
And zero respect. For anyone.
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Generations of polite, well adjusted adults compared with the latest crop of social mutants would tend to prove you incorrect.
Millions of children in this country were never paddled with wood. So your statement is totally meaningless.
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Well...way to keep it classy parent that punched the principal. You're setting a great example for your child...
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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Nope. In over a dozen years of teaching and another 20 as an administrator, I never had to resort to physical punishment even once.
A good teacher - a good PERSON - finds productive ways to avoid physical punishment.

Spanking or paddling? That's just lazy.
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Old 03-15-2016, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Millions of children in this country were never paddled with wood. So your statement is totally meaningless.
True. And so is yours.

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A good teacher - a good PERSON - finds productive ways to avoid physical punishment.

Spanking or paddling? That's just lazy.
Agreed. But then children come in all types. From quite mature and self-disciplined beyond their years to feral types.

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Old 03-15-2016, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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Millions of children in this country were never paddled with wood. So your statement is totally meaningless.
But on the contrary, many millions of children ,too, were actually paddled that grew up with respect and an understanding of consequences as well.

Sorry, but calling his statement meaningless is wrong and shows your own bias.

I know this, as I am also an educator, parent, and former child that got my butt busted (at home and school) when necessary, and I don't have a criminal record as a result. I didn't develop a violent mentality from it. I don't "beat" my kids. I don't like blood sports, etc.

It's wrong to presume that what works for one (you) works for everyone else, as well. Hell, even my own children respond differently to different punishments.

And as a current educator of over 20 years, I've seen hundreds of students that actually desire the types of punishments meted out by today's administrators. Being sent to a room to stare at the wall is actually preferable to staying in class.

So, no, not meaningless at all.

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