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I don’t think I posted when this thread was first started, or at all until now.
But murder/suicide was my first & only thought. I guess it’s early in the forensic investigation & nothing is completely off the table yet. I kind of wish they would find some clue, something to hint that it wasn’t that but I know the families have waited long enough.
It’s heartbreaking for all & if I were the parent of the girl, I would deal with some major anger issues eventually that I had no one to blame. No one to hate.
I haven’t linked to the new reports yet because I’ve been on my kid’s school iPad ( it blocks me) all weekend but I felt so bad for his parents too.( I know, Momma; to you he’ll always be that sweet baby boy).
Plus the fact that he took a gun. Which a couple of posters have said they do, too, in case they encounter animal predators. That's a good point, but those two were college students. I've never known or heard of a college student owning a gun, unless it's at his parents' house while he's at college. But ok, the uncle says they'd been planning a group hike for a month. And if the guy were angry about having been broken up with, wouldn't he have done something about it long ago, if he were so inclined? The breakup was 2 years ago, I guess? OTOH, who plans a group hike to remote desert location for the height of the summer heat, for a friend's birthday?
Whichever way you look at it, it was two needless deaths. That's what's so frustrating and sad. Two people in the prime of their lives, with everything ahead of them.
He was a security guard. Owning the gun was a requirement of his job. One out of every five Californians owns a gun, including student's. Even if you have never heard of that.
Well since even the police don't have definitive evidence either way, how is it any worse to speculate that the guy killed her out of unrequited love and not 'mercy' killing?
You either say let's hold off on any judgment either way, or don't pick any sides at all.
There is plenty of evidence, if you don't ignore the obvious. They were found with gunshot wounds, their bodies embraced under a tree, with their clothing arranged to protect their bodies from the direct sunlight. There was a gun and empty water bottles nearby. The temperature when they went missing was well over 100 degrees, and they had no water to drink. A situation which would result in a slow death for any human being.
The girl's own family have publicly stated that they believe her death was exactly what investigators have said it was, a mercy killing. If that is not enough evidence for you, then there is likely no amount of evidence that would change your mind.
There is plenty of evidence, if you don't ignore the obvious. They were found with gunshot wounds, their bodies embraced under a tree, with their clothing arranged to protect their bodies from the direct sunlight. There was a gun and empty water bottles nearby. The temperature when they went missing was well over 100 degrees, and they had no water to drink. A situation which would result in a slow death for any human being.
The girl's own family have publicly stated that they believe her death was exactly what investigators have said it was, a mercy killing. If that is not enough evidence for you, then there is likely no amount of evidence that would change your mind.
That isn't even 100% proof that it was a mercy killing. It's your interpretation. Evidence can be interpreted in many ways and my opinion isn't any more wrong than yours now, is it. You infer the investigators are 100% certain it was a mercy killing but that is not true at all. It's one of their theories.
I can certainly understand the families readily embracing the mercy killing angle since the alternative is much more sinister. But even authorities don't know when they actually died due to condition of bodies, so not sure how anyone can say for certain this was a mercy killing.
It had been previously reported the pair was embracing when they were found Sunday. “It did appear that way, but we’ll really never know,” Bachman said on Friday.
Because of the condition of the bodies, sheriff’s officials said it would be difficult to determine exactly when the two died, whether it was soon after they were reported missing, or a few days or weeks after that.
But murder/suicide was my first & only thought. I guess it’s early in the forensic investigation & nothing is completely off the table yet. I kind of wish they would find some clue, something to hint that it wasn’t that but I know the families have waited long enough.
Investigators are saying it was a mercy kill, so I would say they have found plenty of clues to say it wasn't murder.
Will someone please post a link to any source that says investigators are 100% certain this was a mercy killing, without any doubts?
People here keep inferring that investigators are absolutely certain it was a mercy killing.
Not true. At all.
Well time to put money where your mouth is because I have yet to read a single article where any investigator or officer said it was a mercy killing 100% case closed.
Will someone please post a link to any source that says investigators are 100% certain this was a mercy killing, without any doubts?
People here keep inferring that investigators are absolutely certain it was a mercy killing.
Not true. At all.
Well time to put money where your mouth is because I have yet to read a single article where any investigator or officer said it was a mercy killing 100% case closed.
Several articles have been posted already.
Care to post an article saying it was murder? Or do you just want to continue dragging a dead man's name through the mud without any evidence? There is nothing to suggest this was premeditated murder.
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