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Typically, if are in the company of one who is commiting a felony, you are considered an accomplice to the felony. Not saying it is appropriate in this case.
They were in the car not in the bank. If he had taken a bus to the bank would they have arrested all the people on the bus with him? And he was not committing a felony.
But let's pretend he was trying to pass a bad check. His child was in the car while he was committing he crime. She wasn't with him, she wasn't committing the crime. That would be like arresting children because their parents are criminals. Enough of this apologist nonsense. This is America and children should not be arrested simply because of their parents.
Yes I have worked in a bank and I didn't say interrogate but you can ask the source if the funds. With your past tense comment you clearly haven't been in the business for some time. Anti money laundering, KYC, patriot act have all changed the business. You saying a bank doesn't care where the funds came from is not accurate
I'm assuming you were not management. A bank does not need to know the source of funds to deposit a check. Period! Cash yes, check no. And this was proceeds from a sale of a house. I could be wrong, but it was probably a check from a title company and not a hand written check.
It reads like heavy handed and not very competent policing.
I can understand the bank calling the police if they suspect fraud. However, this person said that he had the documentation supporting the check and that the police didn't look at that. And why also arrest the wife and daughter?
The police might be able to prove probable cause in the case of the husband although the fact that the check was subsequently verified might be a problem for them. It could be argued that they did not due sufficient investigation before arresting the family and that the police jumped to conclusions without sufficient evidence.
Establishing probable cause will be much harder for the wife and even more so for the daughter.
I suspect that the taxpayers of Wichita will be paying out a fairly substantial settlement on this one.
The police weren't called to verify the check, the bank called the police because they believed the check was possible forgery. Sometimes the other bank doesn't answer or won't verify information but that's side bar. None of us know if any attempt was made to call the other bank
Read the article.
The police tried to verify and mention is made of their "resources."
The police ultimately verified it.
I'm assuming you were not management. A bank does not need to know the source of funds to deposit a check. Period! Cash yes, check no. And this was proceeds from a sale of a house. I could be wrong, but it was probably a check from a title company and not a hand written check.
You'd be incorrect I was and am in management and the source of funds is very important . You are clearly clueless of the last decade of banking business
You'd be incorrect I was and am in management and the source of funds is very important . You are clearly clueless of the last decade of banking business
I'm not clueless and I'm sure I have much more experience than you. It's obvious. Honestly don't care. I also didn't say that the source of funds is not important; however, while depositing a check that was clearly from a title company there was no need to get the police involved in the first place. All the manager had to do was pick up a phone and verify the check. At any rate, this thread is not titled "I know more about banking regulations than you", it's about a family who was clearly racially profiled by a bank and a police officer.
Good thing is that all these stupid actions by the institutions result in decent settlement. I hope he finds some good conservative lawyer in Kansas who can can assist the Iraqi in getting his pay day doubled or so. Not bad lift I would say....
Friend, you're boot-licking. A check can literally be written on used toilet paper & still be valid. Bankers ought to know that & further, the best "looking" checks are the fake ones.
Sell a car on Craigslist for $1000 more than your asking price & you'll get *beautiful* (fake) checks, complete with water marks, gold seals & thumb-prints & even the president's picture on the face of the check.
There's one way to verify a check, deposit it & wait for it to clear. That's why we allow holds. Call the police after you've confirmed that a check is bogus, not before.
The police in this case are completely unrepentant- they held a family for hours without reasonable suspicion or probable cause. That's wrong.
The bank was also unrepentant. In the 2nd linked article, it said everything was according to its procedures, and if a similar situation were to arise, the bank would follow the same procedures.
The only thing that could have made this banking deposit story worse would have been if the police shot and killed someone while at the bank. All the poor guy wanted to do was deposit a check to an account. Seems the bank overacted as well the police department in Wichita KS.
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