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Old 01-25-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Is this not car theft? The young guy who took the keys clearly knew this was not his car. And the only thing stopping him from who knows what was the police. Lock him up.

Its like if your bank accidentally deposits a large amount of money in your account and you spend it. You go to jail.

As far as suing for everything. Seriously? Is that really necessary. The dude has a $300,000 car and it was not damaged. Does everyone need to sue everyone else just because they can? How about no harm no foul. Give the attorney a lifetime comp at the hotel.
I dont think this is on the level of car theft, it looks like he was just joyriding, but when its a Ferrari, well thats going to be treated different than if it was a Chevy or a Toyota!

Im surprised he didnt wreck it, cars like this are not that easy to drive, they are insanely powerful and the shifting is not the same as in lower priced cars, even the cop realized he was having trouble handling it.
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:03 AM
 
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I dont think this is on the level of car theft, it looks like he was just joyriding, but when its a Ferrari, well thats going to be treated different than if it was a Chevy or a Toyota!

Im surprised he didnt wreck it, cars like this are not that easy to drive, they are insanely powerful and the shifting is not the same as in lower priced cars, even the cop realized he was having trouble handling it.
Not theft? How do you figure? He took a car that he knew wasn't his. It doesn't matter what he did with the car. Taking something that isn't yours is theft, plain and simple.


Also, as you have stated, these cars are not easy to drive. Because of this, damage can easily happen. It was the owners right to have the vehicle inspected and worn/damaged parts replaced due to the "joyride". Also, depending on the damage done, it could diminish the value of the vehicle because people who do buy these, want them in top condition. Generally, that would mean no parts repaired or replaced outside of fluid changes.
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Old 01-25-2018, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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I dont think this is on the level of car theft, it looks like he was just joyriding, but when its a Ferrari, well thats going to be treated different than if it was a Chevy or a Toyota!
Joyriding is unlawfully taking someone's car & driving it around. It's still theft, even if the windows were down & the keys in the ignition. You can't justify the reason, cuz it doesn't matter. If one of your guests took your wallet from the table to buy food, is it any less a crime than a guest who took it to buy a new electronic? Ultimately, is it your fault... you left it out to let them joyride with your cash.
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Old 01-25-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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I dont think this is on the level of car theft, it looks like he was just joyriding, but when its a Ferrari, well thats going to be treated different than if it was a Chevy or a Toyota!

Im surprised he didnt wreck it, cars like this are not that easy to drive, they are insanely powerful and the shifting is not the same as in lower priced cars, even the cop realized he was having trouble handling it.
So, you're saying I can take someones Honda and when pulled over by the cops I can just say "joyriding" and not be charged with theft.

LOL....we both know that's BS.
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Old 01-25-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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I agree with both of you however the car was essentially joyridden. No high speed chases, no accidents.

How was the value "Diminished?" Punitive damages? Really?

Comp the hotel, sure
Detail the car, sure
$10 for every mile driven? Ok
The problem is that this is not a *normal* car.

Consider that the car was driven *badly* by the guy and then most certainly towed away as police arrested the guy. Those are not steel framed cars even the tow truck load might not have been done right.

Certainly, it's entirely reasonable to want a full inspection plus they may not find out that the bad driver took 20% off the life of the clutch, transmission or who knows what else.

On top of that the lawyer has to spend his time and energy getting his car back, then inspected etc....all a major hassle.

It's just a completely different animal than if someone took your Honda accord for a drive. Walk around, no obvious damage etc. and you're good to go.
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Old 01-25-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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old degenerate lawyer guy should admit that the coke was his and go back to his "lawyer convention" with his Viagra and hookers he's billing to one of his corporate clients.

btw...Chloe Rimmer? yeah right
Do you know the guy arrested or more about the story? I'm not seeing anything in the story that would lead me to follow your narrative.

Are you just hurling invective at the lawyer because he's obviously really rich?
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Old 01-25-2018, 11:40 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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You don't have to be "really rich" to buy a Ferrari. Many of them abound used.

That being said, this is one reason I'm disappointed that Ferrari and many other manufacturers have gone to F1 automatic transmissions instead of manual transmissions. You think that punk would've known how to drive a manual transmission Ferrari? LOL.
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Old 01-25-2018, 11:45 AM
 
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You don't have to be "really rich" to buy a Ferrari. Many of them abound used.

That being said, this is one reason I'm disappointed that Ferrari and many other manufacturers have gone to F1 automatic transmissions instead of manual transmissions. You think that punk would've known how to drive a manual transmission Ferrari? LOL.
These days not many do.

Even further on that point, I'm an experienced manual transmission driver and when I first got my C6Z06 the clutch was so completely alien in terms of stiffness and travel distance along with trying not to give to much gas to a 3200lb car with 500+ hp... that I killed it once or twice the first week I had it.

P.S. Since "really rich" is a subjective term, I'll just restate it to wonder if the poster started calling the lawyer a degenerate drug user (with no proof whatsoever) because he had a level of wealth that angered him.
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Old 01-25-2018, 11:50 AM
 
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...which has zip to do with the issue.

Yeesh, people.
What comes around goes around. This was PAY BACK.
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Old 01-25-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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The 458 is a great but fragile car. Wouldn't be surprised if all the maintenance / damage issues (including the electrical issues with the tail lights unless he was driving on the DRLs) existed before the kid ever got in the car. Kid is still an idiot though. As is the lawyer for keeping coke in the car. Lots of stupid to go around.
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