common sense goes out the door, man fired for stopping a thief
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Blind absolute adherence to "no tolerance" policies is always stupid. That's how you get elementary school kids suspended for eating their cooking into the shape of a gun.
Let's say a male customer started smashing an elderly female customer in the face with full force in an attempt to snatch her purse, and an equally young and healthy store employee intervened. It would be a stupid company that would blindly enforce its policy in such a case.
I think we were talking about employees not going after shoplifters right? I really don't want to go down the rabbit hole of 'well what about". It's common sense that no one would stand by, not an employee or a customer and allow someone to be injured or killed if they could intervene
A man who worked for Academy Sports as a manager was fired after detaining gun thief suspect. He tackled the suspect after showing him a 40mm handgun and ammo which the suspect tried to run off with. The suspect had stolen 2 guns earlier at a pawn shop.
I guess Academy is worried about being sued by the thief so they fired the manager.
It just seems criminals get more protection and rights than law abiding citizens. Just doesn't seem right.
We have ambulance chasing lawyers to thank for this type of nonsense.
I think we were talking about employees not going after shoplifters right? I really don't want to go down the rabbit hole of 'well what about". It's common sense that no one would stand by, not an employee or a customer and allow someone to be injured or killed if they could intervene
And that's my point about blindly following a "no tolerance" policy being stupid.
And it would have been stupid in this case as well, which the company later and correctly realized.
No, you can't give employees a pass for violating what is pretty much a standard company policy, the policy is there for a reason. Employees are not trained in apprehending thieves, when they try to play cop they endanger themself, other employees and customers.
It seems your opinion that it was not appropriate to chase the bad guy was incorrect. Based on posting here, the company rehired the mgr because the mgr had NOT violated company policy by chasing the violator down. Thus the sacred "company policy", which seems to rule above all, says he did not commit a violation. Nobody was hurt, customer or employee, so its all good.
And yes, you can give a "pass" for violating a rule. Companies do it regularly, nobody is perfect in every thing they do every moment of every day. If companies enforced all rules to the exact letter at all times no matter what then there would be no employees with any longevity. Everybody makes errors, mistakes or due to circumstance, inadvertently violate rules and laws. Even police give "passes" for violations of the law. It all comes down to circumstances, intent of the violator and intent of the rule/law itself vs letter of the law. Police Officers, as an example in California, are taught in the academy the difference between intent of the law and letter of the law, it is recommended they follow intent.
I'm sure the thief went running through the store hollering he was unarmed, or perhaps the mgr had ESP and he just knew the thief was unarmed? What sort of fool just assumes someone is unarmed when they are committing a crime of this nature?
Simple, based on the news story the guy was not armed, except for the gun he attempted to steal.
It's the registration, mental health screenings, owner liability, and the unwillingness of the gun lobby to concede anything that seems to be the sticking points....
How is having 10,000 gun laws on the books not conceding?
Brookings estimates there are not thousands, but closer to 300 federal and state gun laws. Brookings clarifies that it did not include local laws in its survey because roughly 40 states prohibit most local gun laws.
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