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Old 07-20-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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Very sad. Judges are too lenient in their sentences...

 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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It absolutely matters.

It describes the kids as survivors, which means that they were shot and then survived.

If the kids were NOT shot, then it's bad journalism and is pushing a point that doesn't exist for emotional trauma.

Absolutely. 100%. Matters.

And he's 61? With 2 kids in HS?
How many 'survived' the destruction of the Twin Towers on 911 by being fortunate enough to escape or being rescued?

You're picking at nits my friend!
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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No, it doesn't mean that. It means they got out of the school alive.

sur·vi·vor
sərˈvīvər/
noun
a person who survives, especially a person remaining alive after an event in which others have died.



Again, why does that matter? Plenty of people have kids in their 40s.
If you were never in danger, you're not a survivor.

You really think every person in the school should be called a survivor? All 3000 of them? Participation trophies even during tragedies? If you were absent that day are you still a survivor, I mean, you go to the school, right?
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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Very sad.... What did he ever do to deserve that?

I tell ya,no justice........
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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If you were never in danger, you're not a survivor.

You really think every person in the school should be called a survivor? All 3000 of them? Participation trophies even during tragedies? If you were absent that day are you still a survivor, I mean, you go to the school, right?
What the heck are you going on about? Particpation trophies? No one is celebrating such a tragic event.

A horrible thing happened at their school. Their classmates and teachers were murdered. They weren't. They survived. What happened to their classmates, could have easily been them. It was simply a matter of wrong place, wrong time.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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It absolutely matters.

It describes the kids as survivors, which means that they were shot and then survived.

If the kids were NOT shot, then it's bad journalism and is pushing a point that doesn't exist for emotional trauma.

Absolutely. 100%. Matters.

And he's 61? With 2 kids in HS?
Not the case. Anyone involved who was there is a survivor, it's always been the case with any tragedy whether a plane crash, holocaust, etc.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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What the heck are you going on about? Particpation trophies? No one is celebrating such a tragic event.

A horrible thing happened at their school. Their classmates and teachers were murdered. They weren't. They survived. What happened to their classmates, could have easily been them. It was simply a matter of wrong place, wrong time.
If you were in a completely different building across campus, you were never in danger. At all.

This is not a 500-person one building HS, with 3 exits.

This is a multi-acre, multiple buildings, 3100+ students.

So yes the use of the word "survivor" does NOT apply to all students there.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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Not the case. Anyone involved who was there is a survivor, it's always been the case with any tragedy whether a plane crash, holocaust, etc.
If you were at the mall when there was a shooting, completely across the mall, different floor, anchor store to anchor store, half a mile away, you would consider yourself a survivor even though you were NEVER in any danger whatsoever?

I mean If I was in a plane that crashed, and I lived, of course I would be a survivor. As I was on a plane. That crashed. With me in it. Me ... falling from sky. Danger.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:39 PM
 
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If you were in a completely different building across campus, you were never in danger. At all.

This is not a 500-person one building HS, with 3 exits.

This is a multi-acre, multiple buildings, 3100+ students.

So yes the use of the word "survivor" does NOT apply to all students there.
They didn't die, as others did. So yes, they did survive this horrible tragedy. It doesnt matter how many others also survived, it just matters that they survived.

Just as someone who walked out of one of the Twin Towers on 9/11 is also a survivor. It doesn't matter if they worked on the 4th floor or the 94th floor. They survived when others didn't.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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If you were in a completely different building across campus, you were never in danger. At all.

This is not a 500-person one building HS, with 3 exits.

This is a multi-acre, multiple buildings, 3100+ students.

So yes the use of the word "survivor" does NOT apply to all students there.
I can't believe you are parsing words around this horrifying event.
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