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Old 10-06-2018, 05:47 AM
 
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I'm against removing life support from patients. In this case mentioned above, I see to respect her family's decision.
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Old 10-06-2018, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I can understand the parents not giving up hope so soon after the incident. It must be devastating. At some point, the reality that their daughter isn't going to recover will sink in, though.

It recalls the Terry Schiavo case in FL about a dozen years back.
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Old 10-06-2018, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Well, the thing is...her heart is beating on its own, but she can't breath on her own.


While everyone is between a rock and a hard place...if they pull the ventillator...I'm thinking (I'm not sure) that it wouldn't just be that she just stops breathing...she'll suffocate. I'm thinking it'd be a very unpleasant way to die...and hard for her parents to watch.


My dad was brain dead when they pulled the ventillator, and he lived for 9 more days. Everything just gradually stopped. It was peaceful. I'm not sure that would be the case with this little girl.
I'm so sorry you went through that with your dad. We went through it with my dad too - even a peaceful death is heartbreaking.

Like this little girl, my dad's heart was beating but he couldn't breathe on his own. He had had a massive stroke to his brain stem so his condition was hopeless. They removed the ventilator and he died peacefully about 20 hours later. His breathing was sporadic and just gradually slowed down.
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Old 10-06-2018, 06:32 AM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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I can understand the parents not giving up hope so soon after the incident. It must be devastating. At some point, the reality that their daughter isn't going to recover will sink in, though.

It recalls the Terry Schiavo case in FL about a dozen years back.
It also recalls the Sun Hudson case - which happened the very same month that Schiavo's feeding tube was removed.

Sun Hudson was an infant in Texas. He was disconnected from life support - again, in Texas - against the wishes of his mother. None of the grandstanders in the Schiavo case (the protesters, Congress, President Bush) could be bothered to showboat on his behalf. I guess the whole 'life is precious and sacrosanct!' thing is cast by the wayside when it begins cutting into a hospital's profits.

[For the record, I think all of these cases should have resulted in the feeding tubes being removed. That said, there's a boatload of hypocrisy going on among the 'pro-life - but not when it's financially inconvenient' crowd.]
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Old 10-06-2018, 07:48 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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It also recalls the Sun Hudson case - which happened the very same month that Schiavo's feeding tube was removed.

Sun Hudson was an infant in Texas. He was disconnected from life support - again, in Texas - against the wishes of his mother. None of the grandstanders in the Schiavo case (the protesters, Congress, President Bush) could be bothered to showboat on his behalf. I guess the whole 'life is precious and sacrosanct!' thing is cast by the wayside when it begins cutting into a hospital's profits.

For the record, I think all of these cases should have resulted in the feeding tubes being removed. That said, there's a boatload of hypocrisy going on among the 'pro-life - but not when it's financially inconvenient' crowd.
And we have a winner. I'm appalled at the insensitive comments on this thread. "They can keep her on life support as long as they want, but not with my tax dollars." Their hearts are breaking for their child.
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Old 10-06-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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And we have a winner. I'm appalled at the insensitive comments on this thread. "They can keep her on life support as long as they want, but not with my tax dollars." Their hearts are breaking for their child.
Understandably, as she is dead. But why should any dead person be kept "alive" on or with public funded programs, when they won't recover (because they are dead) and there is no QOL (because they are dead)? If people want to blow their own money or private donations on keeping a dead person hooked up to machines, be my guest. But when resources come from the public, there are far better ways to allocate them.

Btw I personally am not pro-life so no hypocrisy from me.
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Old 10-06-2018, 04:15 PM
 
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And we have a winner. I'm appalled at the insensitive comments on this thread. "They can keep her on life support as long as they want, but not with my tax dollars." Their hearts are breaking for their child.
Of course they are grieving. Anyone who loses a child probably does. But keeping a brain-dead person’s body on somatic support only prolongs the agony. It won’t bring back the person and it diverts money that could help a living person.
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Old 10-06-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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I don’t really have a problem with the whole taxpayers cash thing, I think it’s a slippery slope when you start trying to decide who is worthy of assistance and who isn’t. But in these cases, the issue really is that the child or patient, is not going to recover. Are they going to dedicate the remaining 40-50 years of their life to watching their loved one not grow, not develop, never wake up, who do they think should do it when they pass on? If they have other kids, are they now also going to have to take on that burden for the rest of their lives? When there’s really no hope of recovery, what are they hoping to achieve by not allowing them to pass on?
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Old 10-06-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Yes, I hope none. I hope it's fully privately funded.

If clueless parents who are in denial want to keep their dead kids "alive," I'm fine with it as long as it's all privately funded. Use your own money or rely on donations from other stupid people, but I hope no taxpayer money goes to this. Ever.

That’s how I see it.
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Old 10-07-2018, 05:31 PM
 
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It is sad....brain-death then the lingering while the rest of the body starts breaking-down.
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