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I think with mass quarantine you’re trading one bad thing for another bad thing. Again, we know who is high risk. If I was in that group, I would take precautions to protect myself.
But anyone who needs medical attention is at high risk when the medical system has collapsed. Take into consideration that huge numbers of medical professionals will be forced to quarantine to protect patients. The medical system will be operating at well below capacity while the demand skyrockets. 150m Americans with Coronavirus means millions of deaths. Of all ages.
But anyone who needs medical attention is at high risk when the medical system has collapsed. Take into consideration that huge numbers of medical professionals will be forced to quarantine to protect patients. The medical system will be operating at well below capacity while the demand skyrockets. 150m Americans with Coronavirus means millions of deaths. Of all ages.
No, it doesn't. Only the frail elderly and people with ongoing health concerns are going to die of it even if every single person is exposed. Even if every single person exposed is infected.
And the medical system is no more collapsed today than it was 6 months ago.
No, it doesn't. Only the frail elderly and people with ongoing health concerns are going to die of it even if every single person is exposed. Even if every single person exposed is infected.
And the medical system is no more collapsed today than it was 6 months ago.
That's not true. And that is why Italy has shut down huge chunks of their country.
High risk people are people with diabetes or smokers or people with high blood pressure. "Ongoing health concerns" affect huge chunks of the population. Even if "only" 1-2% die, far more people need emergency care to be able to breathe as their lungs stop functioning properly.
The medical system will collapse if 200 million people get coronavirus and 20 million people need emergency care. That's "only" 10% of the infected population. Its not like 1% die and 99% have very mild symptoms. Since lots of medical professionals will not be available because they are in quarantine to avoid transmitting the disease to vulnerable people, 20 million people in the ER is bound to cause a total collapse. When the medical system collapses people of all ages are at risk regardless of their health status.
Even without quarantine, our economy is set to take a pretty hefty hit just from loss of tourism alone. Especially tourism-heavy areas ... Las Vegas, Orlando, Washington DC, NYC, LA, etc. People aren't thinking through what consequences restricting movement will have. And then when we find ourselves in a depression with sky high unemployment rates, they're going to blame the government.
Hey, I'm thinking about it - my husband works in the oil and gas industry and guess what news we woke up to this morning!
Not to mention, he wants to retire in about three years...hmmm...didn't plan on spending that retirement money...
No, it doesn't. Only the frail elderly and people with ongoing health concerns are going to die of it even if every single person is exposed. Even if every single person exposed is infected.
That is what is so puzzling to me about younger adults freaking out about this. Healthy younger-to-middle aged adults are basically going to be OK. The biggest blessing with the coronavirus is that kids seem to not be affected by it much, if at all. That is a huge difference from influenza where children tend to die more frequently. Coronavirus is killing the elderly and people with existing medical conditions. One of the reasons for the spread is due to it being so mild/inconsequential for everyone else that they go about their daily lives transmitting it because they don't even know they have it.
Coronavirus almost seems like nature saying "OK, we have too many people living unnaturally long lives due to modern medicine - let's try and do something about that". Or maybe nature is a budget-hawk and is worried about the solvency of social security and medicare.
That is what is so puzzling to me about younger adults freaking out about this. Healthy younger-to-middle aged adults are basically going to be OK. The biggest blessing with the coronavirus is that kids seem to not be affected by it much, if at all. That is a huge difference from influenza where children tend to die more frequently. Coronavirus is killing the elderly and people with existing medical conditions. One of the reasons for the spread is due to it being so mild/inconsequential for everyone else that they go about their daily lives transmitting it because they don't even know they have it.
Coronavirus almost seems like nature saying "OK, we have too many people living unnaturally long lives due to modern medicine - let's try and do something about that". Or maybe nature is a budget-hawk and is worried about the solvency of social security and medicare.
Most people have older family members though and if the virus gets out of control, everyone who needs medical care, regardless of age, are unlikely to get it because the system would be totally overwhelmed with coronavirus.
We are a Nation of freedom and open movement unlike China. If your Neighborhood or City was put into a lockdown and you were told to Quarantine in your home, who would be responsible and enforce that Quarantine ?
The Department of Homeland Security is who. They have the largest Police for in the US with 55,000 sworn officers compared to NY City 30,000.
Next in order if needed would be to call in the US Coast Guard which has almost 57,000 Enlisted.
I would assume States would also call up their State / National Guard as needed. And you would have your local Police, Sheriffs and other local LE.
So the US Govt has huge force to enforce Quarantines to restrict movements as needed. Question is what do they do to make you stay in your home.
It would all be done for the benefit of the National Good.
Quarantines enforced by counties. I suppose if a state declared an emergency, a state could do it. Read about the violator of quarantine in St. louis Co. It was County that threatened action.
Quarantines seem to be enforced by counties in WA as well.
There isnt going to be a quarantine like in the movies with rifle-wielding national guardsmen in your street like youve seen in movies. That would be sensible with a high death rate virus restricted to a particular area like a town. It makes no sense with something that is already everywhere basically and isnt going to kill the vast majority of affected.
At this point they balk at stuff like suspending public events and shutting schools or advising remote work for all personnel who could do so. Thats the last big measure they really have and it ll be another week or two before they contemplate it seriously.
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