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Old 02-22-2024, 03:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Poor soul. Keeping venomous pets.
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Old 02-22-2024, 04:08 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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I think keeping Gil’s monsters and beaded lizards is regulated.
Keeping hots is regulated, but once again, scofflaws are scofflaws and don't submit to regulations. I'd also be willing to bet that gila-keeper's animal was the product of generations of captive breeding, not taken from the wild. Apparently, gila hobbyists have discovered Gregor Mendel.
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Old 02-22-2024, 09:55 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Keeping hots is regulated, but once again, scofflaws are scofflaws and don't submit to regulations. I'd also be willing to bet that gila-keeper's animal was the product of generations of captive breeding, not taken from the wild. Apparently, gila hobbyists have discovered Gregor Mendel.
The article I read said it was illegal to keep Gila monsters in CO and he had 2 of them. Also said the bite was equivalent in danger to a rattlesnake bite, except there's no antivenom.
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Old 02-23-2024, 06:11 AM
 
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He died “days” later. It would have taken all of a half day as an ER walk in, and probably even less time if carted in by ambulance, for him to get anti-venom.
I don't believe there is anti-venom for their bite since they are extremely rare and usually non-toxic.

That said, he clearly had a lingering issue which they could have treated.
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Old 02-23-2024, 06:13 AM
 
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Keeping hots is regulated, but once again, scofflaws are scofflaws and don't submit to regulations. I'd also be willing to bet that gila-keeper's animal was the product of generations of captive breeding, not taken from the wild. Apparently, gila hobbyists have discovered Gregor Mendel.
Yeah captive breeding programs are a big thing.

For species (of anything) from countries with export bans like Australia that's the only real way with perhaps some rare smuggled examples.
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Old 02-23-2024, 07:50 AM
 
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[quote=Arktikos;66449954]What a bizarre pet. A solitary, venomous animal with a nasty reputation=/QUOTE]

There is no need to drag my ex wife into the conversation.
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Old 02-23-2024, 09:36 AM
 
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The article I read said it was illegal to keep Gila monsters in CO and he had 2 of them. Also said the bite was equivalent in danger to a rattlesnake bite, except there's no antivenom.
Depends on the type of rattlesnake, there are like 13 species in the US.

Eastern, Western Diamondback, Timber and Mojave are 4 right off the top that I would 100% take that Gila monster bite instead.

Prairie and pygmy...probably take those.
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Old 02-23-2024, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Not a darwin contender in my mind. They very rarely kill humans obviously. He had some sort of allergic reaction it seems.

There are too many other stupid deaths that would be the "winner" over this.
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Old 02-23-2024, 10:02 AM
 
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Darwin Award winner?

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2024/02...-a-rare-event/

"COLORADO (KCNC) — The Jefferson County coroner has confirmed that a 34-year-old Colorado man died this month, days after being bitten by one of his two pet Gila monsters.

“I think this case highlights that any venomous animals should be respected,” said Dr. Nick Brandehoff, a medical toxicologist and expert in reptile bites with the Asclepius Snakebite Foundation, who was consulted on the Lakewood Gila monster case.

Gila monsters are venomous reptiles found in the southwestern United States. While their bites can be painful, they are normally not fatal to humans. Experts say that the last report of a human dying from a Gila monster bite was in 1930."
I wouldn’t apply Darwin because it’s extremely rare per the piece you quoted. It hasn’t happened in almost 100 years, but tens of thousands or more have had them for pets in that time. That’s like saying dying from a cat bite is worthy of Darwin Award because he bought the cat.
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Old 02-23-2024, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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He died “days” later. It would have taken all of a half day as an ER walk in, and probably even less time if carted in by ambulance, for him to get anti-venom.
There is none for gila monster bites. Look it up.
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