08-10-2012, 09:04 AM
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[quote=Considering Coming Back;25557963]
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People always talk about the "school within a school" nature of Woodrow, which means that the kids in the rigorous classes can and do get a superlative education. But if your kid can't handle the IB program or all-AP and is in classes with kids who are unprepared and unmotivated, it can be a difficult experience especially if he's struggling with attention issues or needs a lot of extra support. I'd go take a look around Woodrow for yourself, talk to some parents, counselors, etc.
I think Ramona is on point. (don't hit me, Lakewooder!) Woodrow is a great school, BUT, it is not the
right school for everyone.
08-10-2012, 01:14 PM
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It seems to me the poster is looking for some place INCLUSIVE rather than EXCLUSIVE as the Park Cities and private schools. Lakewood/Stonewall/Long/Woodrow fit the bill. The point is everyone can go to those schools. That's the greatest strength of those schools.
08-10-2012, 02:31 PM
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You get out of it what you put into it.
I have seen many young people in their 20s the past few years, as I have 3 in that age group. Mine went to Woodrow as I did. I have observed that the school is not near as important as what one puts into it. I have seen 20 somethings that have Graduated from HP, St.Marks, BL, Woodrow, Hillcrest, Lake Highlands, etc. and from each and everyone of these schools I have seen, among these young people, both what our society would call successful contributing members of society, and failures... so far... dont have a clue who, or what they what to be or do.
08-10-2012, 03:02 PM
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I haven't read all the responses, but you might want to check out the Casa Linda area. We love this area. Big trees, older homes (but many updated), very large lots, friendly neighbors, quiet streets, no pretentiousness at all. Elementary school is excellent, but middle (Gaston) and high school (Bryan Adams) probably aren't your best choices in DISD. But with a 500-600K budget, you could get a very nice house in Casa Linda for much less and use the savings for private school.
08-10-2012, 04:57 PM
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Zuzupetals, I grew up in the Park Cities. I miss perhaps the era that I grew up in (70's) when it was a much different vibe. I live up in Frisco just off of the Dallas North Tollway. If you want great outdoor options have you possibly thought about Aubrey or Pilot Point? Ray Roberts State Park is just in that area. Lots of activities such as horseback riding, kayaking, boating, camping, trails for biking.
08-10-2012, 10:32 PM
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I have seen many young people in their 20s the past few years, as I have 3 in that age group. Mine went to Woodrow as I did. I have observed that the school is not near as important as what one puts into it. I have seen 20 somethings that have Graduated from HP, St.Marks, BL, Woodrow, Hillcrest, Lake Highlands, etc. and from each and everyone of these schools I have seen, among these young people, both what our society would call successful contributing members of society, and failures... so far... dont have a clue who, or what they what to be or do.
Agreed. There are great kids/families in HP. I really don't want to give the impression that I think the Park Cities is a terrible environment that will damage my kids forever. Our decision to go elsewhere is based on many factors. I'm not looking for utopia, because it can't be found here on earth. Just looking for a place where we will want to live our lives, with is successes and failures, glad times and sorrowful ones, too. We've just come to the realization that there might be a better place for us in which to do all that.
Someone mentioned chickens - I would LOVE to live in a place where I could have some chickens.
Casalindamom: I probably would like your area. I'm pretty sure that we are going to want to live somewhere where we don't *have* to do private school, though.
ANLr: you are right! I'm a fan of inclusiveness! (although I am quite aware of my tendency to be snobby about snobby people, which is only immaturity on my part and pretty hypocritical. I'm working on it, though.)
Many of you have very wisely highlighted some areas for me to think about and research regarding Woodrow and my child who struggles with ADD. The school within a school aspect has me wondering which "school" they would be in. I'm thinking no on The IB program. Not even sure if the AP classes would be a good fit for them. This child has many wonderful strengths, but unfortunately traditional schooling is not conducive to the way they best learn. And yes, we've looked at Shelton, but ai yi yi -- $$$$$! Plus, I really want my kids to go to the same schools and have that shared experience. But, in the end, if we need to send our child to a small private school (maybe there are some in east Dallas?) we will. (although they would seriously hate the idea -- which is why I would love to find a good, non-overwhelming, public school.)
I do think East Dallas would fit us well in temperament, though.
. I'll probably go visit Long and Woodrow and talk to the counselors there. Hopefully they'll shoot straight with me.
Thank you all for your extremely helpful advice.
08-11-2012, 02:06 AM
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Someone mentioned chickens - I would LOVE to live in a place where I could have some chickens.
Lots of chicken here in East Dallas, at least three neighbors on my block have them, and the neighborhood elementary school is getting some soon.
That said, chickens are nice enough, but Ducks are where it is at.
No.. I'm not desperate to convince others to keep ducks too, just to have fellow duck-keepers.... how could you even think that?
08-11-2012, 07:16 PM
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One of the families that has chickens, that I mentioned before (bregan0419), has three children. All three are ADD and are going to or have graduated from Woodrow. She has had to work hard to get her children the extra help they need but she is a very active mom at the school and has great respect for the Performing Arts Program. All of her kids have been involved in musical and choirs. One is a national contest winner for an invention he created in Woodrow 71's class. I am glad to hook you up with her email. BTW the chickens are shown in the state fair each year as well. This is my first time posting, being invited by "Lakewooder". I'm not proficient at this media just yet but if you try to message me and I dont respond I'm sure he can let me know. School is upon us and there is so much to do...
08-16-2012, 07:17 PM
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From what you have described, I think Lakewood would be perfect for you. Get hooked up with some of the active parents in PTA and they will help you navigate what looks complicated from the outside. I think the Woodrow board has 100 members.
08-17-2012, 09:49 AM
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From what you have described, I think Lakewood would be perfect for you. Get hooked up with some of the active parents in PTA and they will help you navigate what looks complicated from the outside. I think the Woodrow board has 100 members.
Thanks, barnabasc. We have decided to go forward with seeing if the Lakewood/East Dallas area will work for us, as it does seem to fit the bill and would be the easiest move for us to make (familiar area, and no need to move my husband's office or worry about commute). I plan on meeting with some Long parents and looking at the school as well as visiting Woodrow.
I've driven around the area with my kids and they are all very excited about a potential move.
Thanks to all for very valuable input.
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People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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