Wil lthe DFW area become like California?I really hope not... (Houston: young professionals, restaurants)

[TheOverdog]

Addison is nothing compared to what it was in the early 2000s, when Uptown barely existed. Neither does Lower Greenville. They are way more sober than they used to be.

[TheOverdog]

Uptown isn't anything in the real world it's nothing more than a blip

Uptown has some of the most expensive office business real estate in Texas and some of the most expensive apartment rental prices in Texas. It's not 'nothing.'

[turf3]

Originally Posted by Aceraceae

Uptown has a PD that is seperate from Oak Lawn.

Really? "Uptown" has their very own police department? Wow. Never heard of THAT before.

[The_Man74]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

Uptown has some of the most expensive office business real estate in Texas and some of the most expensive apartment rental prices in Texas. It's not 'nothing.'

sorry I was meaning as far as the "scene" I worded that wrongly


Yea I agree with your post on LG... it was much, much different/better... even 4-5ish years ago lol


It's changed a lot i know

[The_Man74]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

Addison is nothing compared to what it was in the early 2000s, when Uptown barely existed. Neither does Lower Greenville. They are way more sober than they used to be.

correct

[Aceraceae]

http://http://www.dallascityattorney...20Part%20I.pdf

Originally Posted by turf3

Really? "Uptown" has their very own police department? Wow. Never heard of THAT before.

Planned Development requirements.

[Yellow pool of piddle]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

Addison is nothing compared to what it was in the early 2000s, when Uptown barely existed. Neither does Lower Greenville. They are way more sober than they used to be.

For about a decade during the late eighties and early ninties, that part of North Texas around Addison also became the luxury capital of the southwest. There were five luxury department stores within a 1.5 square mile area.

Sakowitz (Sakowitz Village)
Neiman Marcus (Prestonwood Town Center)
Lord & Taylor (Prestonwood Town Center)
Saks Fifth Avenue (Dallas Galleria)
Bloomingdales (Valley View)

[DTXman34]

Originally Posted by Yellow pool of piddle

I didn't say Uptown would develop into the greatest area of night clubs. I said it is fast becoming the premier urban district in North Texas, in the state of Texas, and in all
the south.

Well that's the reputation it has, especially for young professionals. Obviously over time it will change and no longer be the place to be for nightlife. It may or may not be the premier urban district in North Texas.... too much of the retail in Uptown can be found elsewhere. It needs to be a little more unique than that in order for people to want to visit there. I find Knox St. to have a good balance of local stores and chains, while Uptown is titled way more towards chains. IMO, Uptown's main advantages are rather basic in comparison to most cities -- walkability, density, mixed use, and trail/park system. That's the norm in most urban cities. Nothing about it will attract someone from NYC to visit Uptown Dallas. You can easily find Brook's Brothers in Manhattan. Now something that is more unique or even "cool" about Uptown Dallas could be attractive to outsiders.... but trying to be like Manhattan isn't one of them.

[TheOverdog]

It needs to be a little more unique than that in order for people to want to visit there.

Who cares if people want to visit there? Like tourists are some end-all-be-all goal of a neighborhood. Are you doing anything to convince tourists to come to your neighborhood? If tourists want to come check out Dallas, they should be going to Arlington. Or maybe that weird concrete box that is the JFK memorial.

Or to where Robert Johnson recorded some of the first blues albums at 508 Park Avenue, but that place barely even exists as a tourist stop in true Dallas fashion.

[Yellow pool of piddle]

Originally Posted by DTXman34

Well that's the reputation it has, especially for young professionals. Obviously over time it will change and no longer be the place to be for nightlife. It may or may not be the premier urban district in North Texas.... too much of the retail in Uptown can be found elsewhere. It needs to be a little more unique than that in order for people to want to visit there. I find Knox St. to have a good balance of local stores and chains, while Uptown is titled way more towards chains. IMO, Uptown's main advantages are rather basic in comparison to most cities -- walkability, density, mixed use, and trail/park system. That's the norm in most urban cities. Nothing about it will attract someone from NYC to visit Uptown Dallas. You can easily find Brook's Brothers in Manhattan. Now something that is more unique or even "cool" about Uptown Dallas could be attractive to outsiders.... but trying to be like Manhattan isn't one of them.

Actually, Manhatten Island is a great example to compare Dallas to. Instead of an Island, there is twenty-six square miles in and around the area between the Dallas Parkway and Preston Road stretching from downtown Dallas to Frisco. I think people from New York, Paris, and all around the world have a tremendous respect for Dallas.

If you can't find it in Houston, you go to Dallas. If you can't find it in Dallas, it doesn't exist.

Dallas is extremely dynamic. There are very few places on earth where, after building them in close proximity to each other, five luxury department stores all get demolished twenty-five years later. Move out the North Dallas Design District as the greatest concentration of furniture and home furnishing stores in one place in the nation and replace that with the Nebraska Furnitue Mart as the largest store in Texas.

Preston Center was the premier office and retail market in North Texas ten years ago. Now it is Uptown. It is dangerous making predictions. Ross Street and the Dallas Arts District are now biting the bullet. Remember the Spires? Where did the company Seven Eleven run off to? Shoot, they can't even fill up the Museum Tower condos.