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Old 04-10-2017, 05:49 PM
 
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That is an excellent question - one that the media ought to ask more frequently, when skinflint employers come to them with sob stories of crops (laundry, database apps, etc.) "rotting in the fields" due to the so-called "worker shortage."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-new-l...ers-1489483811
Understanding the Economic Impact of the H-1B Program on the U.S.
http://www.psc.isr.umich.edu/pubs/pdf/rr16-857.pdf

From the paper:
In the absence of immigration, wages for US computer scientists would have been 2.6% to 5.1% higher and employment in computer science for US workers would have been 6.1% to 10.8% higher in 2001.
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:20 PM
 
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As usual most people think H1B is just for low end generic IT backoffice jobs. In reality lots of highly qualified doctors, researchers, engineers, geologists etc work with this temporary visa. Getting it is not easy or cheap for employers.
 
Old 04-10-2017, 07:26 PM
 
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As usual most people think H1B is just for low end generic IT backoffice jobs. In reality lots of highly qualified doctors, researchers, engineers, geologists etc work with this temporary visa. Getting it is not easy or cheap for employers.
Bingo.
 
Old 04-10-2017, 08:11 PM
 
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As usual most people think H1B is just for low end generic IT backoffice jobs. In reality lots of highly qualified doctors, researchers, engineers, geologists etc work with this temporary visa.
Yep, immigration puts everyone's jobs at risk. The H-1b program needs to be repealed.
 
Old 04-10-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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Yep, immigration puts everyone's jobs at risk. The H-1b program needs to be repealed.
I'd certainly agree that the the H1B system needs a total overhaul probably starting with universities and lower end tech workers.

If you were to pull the plug now which medical research areas would you stop/slow to a crawl Alzheimer's, Cancer maybe heart disease?
 
Old 04-10-2017, 10:29 PM
 
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If you were to pull the plug now which medical research areas would you stop/slow to a crawl Alzheimer's, Cancer maybe heart disease?
All of them! People living longer put our next generation's jobs at risk!!!
 
Old 04-11-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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All of them! People living longer put our next generation's jobs at risk!!!
That's funny. Unfortunately, not only cancer and heart disease but most diseases doesn't discriminate against young demographics, they are equal opportunity killers.

By the way, we are where we are because of these old and frail and sick people. Only way we can prove our worth as humans is to take care of our "worthless" elderly as well as we do for our "worthy" next generation.

Whatever research we do to help them, is going to help us once we cross the bridge and become a "burden" ourselves.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 07:46 AM
 
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Yep, immigration puts everyone's jobs at risk. The H-1b program needs to be repealed.
Absolutely and then should we assign Joe the plumber to do open heart surgery or Missy the hairdresser to design robots?

If we want to ban immigration then first we must rehaul our educational system and make sure we have steady supply of highly skilled workers.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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As usual most people think H1B is just for low end generic IT backoffice jobs. In reality lots of highly qualified doctors, researchers, engineers, geologists etc work with this temporary visa. Getting it is not easy or cheap for employers.
The H1B program should be eliminated for low and mid-level tech workers, that's for sure. We are producing more than enough of our own people to fill those positions.
 
Old 04-11-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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The H1B program should be eliminated for low and mid-level tech workers, that's for sure. We are producing more than enough of our own people to fill those positions.
I'd support that.
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