Amazon Launches Search for a Second Headquarters City in North America... (Dallas: best neighborhoods, neighborhoods)

[jiping]

Amazon may have some good salary but it is far from prestigious.
They don't need the best "revenue-generating" people, but just qualified people who is willing to overwork and being on call.
Their employees have a pretty high turnover rate. Some new graduates work at Amazon for several years and then move to another company with higher pay and less work, while frequently some low performers are put in PIP and get laid off.
DISD sounds about right to Amazon's taste. As long as Amazon swings the money, people will come for the high-paying not-so-demanding jobs.

And 50000 jobs is a hype. It may be a long term goal but it is impossible to suddenly move 50k people to HQ2 while HQ1 in seattle only has 40k right now.

[justsomeguy]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Well, in part GE moved because the state of Connecticut has been choking the life out of businesses of any size for years. GE saw that Connecticut was collapsing financially and knew with 100% certainty it and its well paid employees would be targeted to cover much of the shortfall. GE was the largest private employer in the state and Bernie Sanders never once paid an official visit to GE that in nutshell illuminates the problem. I'd agree that recruiting was part of the pie but it wasn't all of the pie.

Bernie Sanders is a Senator from Vermont though, not Connecticut

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Bernie Sanders is a Senator from Vermont though, not Connecticut

Good catch I convoluted a couple of things in the brain.

GE to Bernie Sanders: We've 'never been a big hit with socialists' - Apr. 7, 2016

GE Leaves Connecticut for Boston: Blame Taxes | National Review

I really dislike Sanders and should be able to keep where is from straight.

[justsomeguy]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Good catch I convoluted a couple of things in the brain.

GE to Bernie Sanders: We've 'never been a big hit with socialists' - Apr. 7, 2016

GE Leaves Connecticut for Boston: Blame Taxes | National Review

I really dislike Sanders and should be able to keep where is from straight.

Interesting...I wonder why they chose Boston instead of an even lower tax area like Dallas or Atlanta....the recruiting aspect?

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Interesting...I wonder why they chose Boston instead of an even lower tax area like Dallas or Atlanta....the recruiting aspect?

I don't know.

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by Gravy Train

Dallas proper should be far more popular if it weren't for the abysmal performance of DISD.

Well, no urban school district can compare to the suburbs. It doesn't matter what city you're in. The suburbs tend to cater to a certain demographic with resources that the inner cities do not have. If the suburbs had to deal with high poverty and lack of resources...they'll be no different than most urban school districts around the country.

It's more of a class thing than anything else.

Poor to lower income = bad schools
middle to higher income = good schools

It's a sad reality for education in America.

[NP78]

Originally Posted by Dallaz

Well, no urban school district can compare to the suburbs. It doesn't matter what city you're in. The suburbs tend to cater to a certain demographic with resources that the inner cities do not have. If the suburbs had to deal with high poverty and lack of resources...they'll be no different than most urban school districts around the country.

It's more of a class thing than anything else.

Poor to lower income = bad schools
middle to higher income = good schools

It's a sad reality for education in America.

The one caveat there is that part of the reason that DISD has those demographic challenges is that affluent families within the district choose private education.


There isn't much you could do about South Dallas/West Dallas/etc., but if residents of North Dallas/Preston Hollow/Lakewood/Forest Hills/etc. were all committed to public education there would be significant swathes of DISD that would perform at a high level (compare Lakewood Elementary or Stonewall Jackson to the highest performing suburban counterparts, basically no difference).


I don't really have the answers as it simply cannot fall to the schools to fix broader social ills.

[Gravy Train]

It's not up to the wealthy residents (or those supporting private education) in Dallas to fix DISD, as they're still paying property taxes for a school system they've elected not to utilize. The district is far too large and mismanaged to remain effective, with academic performance disparities across all ZIP codes.

Public schools are a significant influence to community growth and desirability. Unfortunately I haven't seen many responses here recommending Dallas neighborhoods to prospective transplants (with jobs/commutes inside 635). Everyone seems to be competing for the same homes zoned to Plano, Frisco, McKinney, Allen, Carroll, Richardson and Highland Park schools.

[BLDSoon]

Originally Posted by Gravy Train

It's not up to the wealthy residents (or those supporting private education) in Dallas to fix DISD, as they're still paying property taxes for a school system they've elected not to utilize. The district is far too large and mismanaged to remain effective, with academic performance disparities across all ZIP codes.

Public schools are a significant influence to community growth and desirability. Unfortunately I haven't seen many responses here recommending Dallas neighborhoods to prospective transplants (with jobs/commutes inside 635). Everyone seems to be competing for the same homes zoned to Plano, Frisco, McKinney, Allen, Carroll, Richardson and Highland Park schools.

I think the point was that if they dont 'use' DISD they'd see no reason to 'fix' DISD. It isn't an issue of size, DFW has many large school districts that do alright or better. Its not even an issue of mismanagement though thats a popular cop-out. Its an issue of poverty and history. Rather simple really. One could mismanage Carroll ISD for example but those kids would still do well.

Most people wouldn't recommend living in Dallas to transplants because most transplants are interested in newer housing and public schooling. Its one of the first questions they ask/they are asked.

[TheOverdog]

Everyone seems to be competing for the same homes zoned to Plano, Frisco, McKinney, Allen, Carroll, Richardson and Highland Park schools.

Except Amazon themselves. They specifically stated they want transit on-site, which means no Frisco, McKinney, Allen, Southlake, Highland Park, and only one site in Plano and one site in Richardson meets that criteria.