07-05-2012, 09:23 PM
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It was reasonable to complain last year, when the heat was setting records and hit triple digits virtually every day for two months.
This summer?!? It's pretty much normal for DFW, maybe a little cooler than it's been the last few years. Granted, it's hot in general, and I still plan on taking frequent trips elsewhere personally (hey, it's not as crazy as going out golfing in this heat.
), but this is pretty much...er, par for the course
for Dallas summers.
I feel sorry for my peeps up in Chicago, tho'.
I can live with summers like this year. Last year was just stupid!
07-06-2012, 04:36 AM
Location: Dallas, TX
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This summer?!? It's pretty much normal for DFW, maybe a little cooler than it's been the last few years.
No, no it's not. It may not be as hot as last year, but it's still hotter than average. Take a look at the temperature chart on
this page and tell me how many days you see dip below average versus going above average. I don't see a single day where the low is below average and only one where the high is below average. That leaves 29 days that were above average, a couple of them about 15 degrees above. And that's what you call normal?
As for Texas being cooler than these other states, there's a big ass difference. There, it'll be hot for a few days, and then it'll be back to cooler temperatures. Chicago is predicted to hit 100 the next couple of days, and then it's back down to 70's. Oh no, how will they live through that...? Here, it'll be in the 100s or close to it for the rest of summer except for the occasional rainy day where we get in the 80s with 100% humidity. How wonderful...
07-06-2012, 05:57 AM
Location: Austin, TX
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^^ What with global warming and climate change, I think everyone better accept what we're having this year as pattern for future Texas summers. I doubt the averages of the last 30 years will be achieved anytime soon.
07-06-2012, 08:16 AM
Location: High Cotton
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Where would you rather be? DFW is most definitely NOT the hottest, nor the most uncomfortable location in the US by a long shot!!! But, listening to some people you'd certainly think DFW was always the worse - NOT SO!!!
07-06-2012, 09:10 AM
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Where would you rather be? DFW is most definitely NOT the hottest, nor the most uncomfortable location in the US by a long shot!!! But, listening to some people you'd certainly think DFW was always the worse - NOT SO!!!
Did you even bother to read Kenshi's post? He said it very well.
Chicago is supposed to be 100 today but by Sunday will be 81 - "OMG, it's so bad, when will it end!!" Oh, yeah... Sunday. Their average high is 84. Check out the averages for any of these cities and you will find they are 10-15-20 degrees above normal and have been. You've stated that thousands of records have been broken yourself.
5 Day Weather Forecast for Chicago - weather.com
Average Weather for Chicago, IL - Temperature and Precipitation
What is Dallas, 3-4 degrees above normal? That is considered normal. You will have days above 96 and days below 96. This is how you get that average.
Look at Jefferson City, Missouri... the average high for July is 88 and the average low is 68. A normal heat wave for them would be 96 - Dallas' average. Dallas at a 8 degrees above normal is 104. I don't know about you but an average of 88 seems pretty nice to me.
This is extremely abnormal for all of the areas under heat advisories and that are experiencing a "heat wave". When I watch the news it's hard for me to feel sorry for these people because it isn't going to last long. In a few days Texas will be stuck with the heat and the rest of these "OMG it's so hot" cities will be waiving theirs goodbye.
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07-06-2012, 09:37 AM
Location: High Cotton
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This is extremely abnormal for all of the areas under heat advisories and that are experiencing a "heat wave". When I watch the news it's hard for me to feel sorry for these people because it isn't going to last long. In a few days Texas will be stuck with the heat and the rest of these "OMG it's so hot" cities will be waiving theirs goodbye.
You may want to keep an eye on the Dew Points and 'Feels Like' Heat Index for all the southeastern states and along the Mississippi River from the Gulf all the way to the far north. Comfort is not just about the temperature. Have you ever been in 90+ degree temperatures and felt chilly due to low humidity? If so, that's because of a low Dew Point. For the most part DFW has a reasonable dew point most of the time even though the temperature may be rather high. Whereas along the Mississippi River and the entire southeastern states it is known for the high dew points they have, which makes people very uncomfortable (sticky, sweaty, constantly dripping wet) even when the temperatures may only be in the 70s but terribly uncomfortable when the temperature is in the 80s, 90s and triple-digits. You can be in
Utah (for example) sitting in the shade with a temperature of 100+ degrees, 8% humidity and a slight breeze and not be the slightest bit uncomfortable...maybe even a bit chilly. Big difference between that and Florida for example (or pick any SE state or any state along the Mississippi River)! It's not just about 'OMG it's so hot'. When you learn what actually makes people 'feel' uncomfortable you'll be much wiser...
Keep your eye on the three maps that I included in my previous post (two posts up from this one)...
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07-06-2012, 11:00 AM
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You may want to keep an eye on the Dew Points and 'Feels Like' Heat Index for all the southeastern states and along the Mississippi River from the Gulf all the way to the far north. Comfort is not just about the temperature. Have you ever been in 90+ degree temperatures and felt chilly due to low humidity? If so, that's because of a low Dew Point. For the most part DFW has a reasonable dew point most of the time even though the temperature may be rather high. Whereas along the Mississippi River and the entire southeastern states it is known for the high dew points they have, which makes people very uncomfortable (sticky, sweaty, constantly dripping wet) even when the temperatures are only in the 70s. You can be in Utah sitting in the shade with a temperature of 110 degrees, 8% humidity and a slight breeze and not be the slightest bit uncomfortable...maybe even a bit chilly. Big difference between that and Florida (or pick your SE state or along the Mississippi River area)! It's not just about 'OMG it's so hot'. When you learn what actually makes people 'feel' uncomfortable you'll be much wiser...
You know you are talking to somebody that lives in Houston, right?
I know about dew points... the high in Houston is only expected to be 94 or so but the heat index will be 100+. I don't know why you are on this constant mission to prove Dallas is not extremely hot during the summer but you couldn't be further form the truth. I live in Houston and know it can definitely be more uncomfortable here than an any other part of the country but that doesn't mean Dallas doesn't get burning hot. It just means Houston is that much worse.
Someone like me from a very humid climate will go to Dallas and notice a difference but it is still freaking hot and nothing like the north, northeast or midwest. You forget, dew points in the 60's are still considered humid. If that same Utah or Denver (or south Florida, NY, Philly, Missouri, Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, Gulfport, Atlanta...) person came to Dallas they would definitely notice it was freaking hot and most if not all would definitely feel its hotter than where they are from and for longer during the summer. Do you not understand how long the summers are here in Texas compared to most of the rest of the country?
Another thing... when the temperature is in the 70's I don't care how high the dew points are (and I've been in 80+) I would never consider it uncomfortable.
07-06-2012, 11:05 AM
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It's been 100+ where I live for a couple weeks now. Maybe mother nature's preparing me for Texas.
07-06-2012, 11:43 AM
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I think another thing that makes a difference is the amount of rain the SE and Gulf Coast gets when compared to Dallas during the summer. Of course this would be the case in a more humid climate.
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People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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