08-02-2009, 05:38 PM
Location: TX
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Do you all notice this as a very common occurence these days? I keep seeing it mentioned with regard to different areas and suburbs around the metroplex. I really don't notice it at all and I'm not sure if I'm just clueless or too wrapped up in it to see it. Sure, I like to buy gadgets and new things, but ultimately only if I need them and/or I personally think they're cool and in both instances only when I can afford them. I don't really get/do things to 'show off.' I don't have an iPhone for example and about half the people I know do - even though I think they're cool, I don't really need all the features. Or when I see an expensive sports car, I just figure that person likes fast/nice cars. What do you think?
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08-02-2009, 05:52 PM
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tyanger
Do you all notice this as a very common occurence these days? I keep seeing it mentioned with regard to different areas and suburbs around the metroplex. I really don't notice it at all and I'm not sure if I'm just clueless or too wrapped up in it to see it. Sure, I like to buy gadgets and new things, but ultimately only if I need them and/or I personally think they're cool and in both instances only when I can afford them. I don't really get/do things to 'show off.' I don't have an iPhone for example and about half the people I know do - even though I think they're cool, I don't really need all the features. What does everyone think?
Taken literally, there is nothing that "everyone" thinks. Most people have a problem agreeing on the time of day or the color of the sky, let alone anything more weighty.
I'd imagine that people who buy an iPhone intend to use it, not just display it to others. And maybe they think they need the features, so they bought one. You don't think you need its features, so you didn't buy one.
An even better question... if people want to spend their money on what they want... why is it any of your business?
08-02-2009, 06:10 PM
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An even better question... if people want to spend their money on what they want... why is it any of your business?
I agree with you completely. I don't care what people spend money on (unless it's taxpayer money). Those were just two examples off the top of my head, I don't mean that you're showing off when you get an iPhone. What I mean is that on this forum different areas around Dallas are often characterized by the presence or absence of this mentality and frankly I haven't noticed it at all. I'm just curious what other peoples' actual experiences are with this phenomenon rather than just hearsay/assumption.
(I changed it to "what do you think", better
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08-02-2009, 08:04 PM
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I agree with you completely. I don't care what people spend money on (unless it's taxpayer money). Those were just two examples off the top of my head, I don't mean that you're showing off when you get an iPhone. What I mean is that on this forum different areas around Dallas are often characterized by the presence or absence of this mentality and frankly I haven't noticed it at all. I'm just curious what other peoples' actual experiences are with this phenomenon rather than just hearsay/assumption.
(I changed it to "what do you think", better
?)
Thanks for the explanation. Actually, I'm sympathetic to your question, now that I understand it better. It's also my impression that the supposed, or alleged, "materialism" seems to be nonexistent.
08-02-2009, 11:17 PM
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I was straight-up poor when I lived in Dallas, and I never felt uncomfortable or out of place. I bought stuff at thrift-stores. I had friends who had Dooney & Burke purses. None of us cared what everyone else liked or wore. We just bought what we wanted and all got along great. I never even heard of a Dallas conspicuous consumption syndrome until I started reading this forum
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08-03-2009, 06:17 AM
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Well we're "poor" compared to others where we live....Coppell. I'm adult (and practical) enough not to care what others have compared to me. I think the problem is the kids---IMPO. Mine goes to HS and when I drop or pick him up I'm usually competing with Porsches, BMW's, Vettes, etc. for parking spaces....and those vehicles are driven by the kids. I really don't understand how a parent could give a child a brand new Porsche at 17? Especially with the way some kids/people in general drive these days!!!LOVE
08-03-2009, 06:41 AM
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Well we're "poor" compared to others where we live....Coppell. I'm adult (and practical) enough not to care what others have compared to me. I think the problem is the kids---IMPO. Mine goes to HS and when I drop or pick him up I'm usually competing with Porsches, BMW's, Vettes, etc. for parking spaces....and those vehicles are driven by the kids. I really don't understand how a parent could give a child a brand new Porsche at 17? Especially with the way some kids/people in general drive these days!!!LOVE
If someone can give their kid a BMW as a starter car, I'd say... good for them. I was only able to give my child a used Saturn... but I didn't feel the need to apologize for my poverty... infact, neither my daughter nor I were upset by the fact that some people had more disposable income, nor did we feel guilty about the existence of those who had less.
I think you have similar values, although you have expressed them differently.
08-03-2009, 07:27 AM
Location: Lake Highlands (Dallas)
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Sure, I like to buy gadgets and new things, but ultimately only if I need them and/or I personally think they're cool and in both instances only when I can afford them.
Kudos on only buying them if you can afford them. Very responsible. But, for the record, no one NEEDS these gadgets.
People saying they need something because they want it badly or if it could be handy does not qualify as a need is a pet peeve of mine. Hehe.
I personally don't pay attention to what everyone else has. My wife and I are very blessed in that we both have jobs that pay well. We have more than enough home. We only pay cash for things. We channel a very large portion of our income into retirement. What we have left after that is ours and no one had the right to judge how one spends it.
That said, I do have a hard time with folks that live on credit, as in the end, if they default on that credit and the expenses get absorbed by the credit company, I do have issue with that. At the end of the day, those costs do get passed on to the responsible people of the world. Other than that... who cares what people spend their money on - what's right for me isn't right for everyone. Otherwise, it'd be a boring world.
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08-03-2009, 12:53 PM
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In my neighborhood you would be hard pressed to find a house over 200k. I makes you wonder when you see a 70k Mercedes/BMW park out front.
08-03-2009, 01:11 PM
Location: southwest michigan
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Maybe a person really likes cars and would rather have a simple house and a fancy car than a fancy house and a simple car. I think that's what the OP is getting at- if some people buy nice things, it doesn't necessarily mean there's a keepin' up with the jones' mentality. It just means that some people value different things than others. If there was an expectation that everyone have a Mercedes/BMW or else be shunned or looked down upon by the community, then that would be different. But if someone just makes the choice to use their disposable income on a nice car, that's their 'druthers.
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People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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