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Old 01-24-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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Detroit is included in this study by the University of Wisconsin. It clearly demonstrates that African Americans are in a state of economic depression, especially in the Great Lakes area. This should be a NATIONAL agenda. Given that the head of the household and lead bread winner in our society has traditionally been the male, it’s easy to see why so many black families are devastated.

http://www4.uwm.edu/ced/publications...yment_2012.pdf

Employment of black men drops drastically - JSOnline

 
Old 01-24-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Huntington Woods, MI
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Why should this be a national agenda? Black males should have to go to school and develop skills and get jobs like white males are required to do. What do you propose we do, fire white males and give their jobs to black males?
 
Old 01-24-2012, 11:34 AM
 
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Why should this be a national agenda? Black males should have to go to school and develop skills and get jobs like white males are required to do. What do you propose we do, fire white males and give their jobs to black males?

Why should it be a national agenda? It’s due to the fact that this is a representative Republic and large segments of this Republic are experiencing depression level conditions, for starters.

Let’s cut the BS. There is not a job waiting for every educated person. If the labor force over the age of 25 were all of a sudden magically given college degrees, the unemployment rate would barely change. Employment is demand driven, not supply driven. In other words, if 100,000 architecture graduates came out of college this year, 100,000 architect jobs are not going to magically appear to employ them. The fact of the matter is that only about a quarter of the jobs in the economy require a college degree. Thus, arguing that the problem is that people are not getting educated means that the person making the argument is not very educated.

It needs to be a national agenda also because traditionally vulnerable demographic groups are suffering more from the downturn than others. Certain communities have been left anemic by this nation’s history of mistreatment. Hence, when ill winds blow these communities become especially vulnerable.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Huntington Woods, MI
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Why should we focus on the black community? Also, I do have a college education and didn't have a problem finding a job, so I don't need to hear from some intellectual wannabe about who is educated and not. Like I said you go to schools to develop skills. The first step is completing high school. Denby is 99% black and has an attendance rate of 60%. Why do these high school dropouts deserve jobs? What skills could they have possibly developed besides how to run organized crime?
 
Old 01-24-2012, 11:46 AM
 
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Cities high on the list, including Milwaukee, Detroit, Buffalo, etc., traditionally employed many low-skilled/low-educated people in manufacturing industries. Blacks generally fell into this category. So it should not be to surprising that as manufacturing jobs have been exported, unemployment in these cities and among these groups of people should increase.

Should it be on the national agenda? Yes, but focusing solely on the racial aspect really misses the point. The focus should be on getting lower-skilled/lower-educational-requirement jobs back to the U.S.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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It's not really shocking data, we've known this forever.

Some of it is institutional, sure. For the rest, African Americans must want to do for themselves and pull up their own bootstraps.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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Cities high on the list, including Milwaukee, Detroit, Buffalo, etc., traditionally employed many low-skilled/low-educated people in manufacturing industries. Blacks generally fell into this category. So it should not be to surprising that as manufacturing jobs have been exported, unemployment in these cities and among these groups of people should increase.

Should it be on the national agenda? Yes, but focusing solely on the racial aspect really misses the point. The focus should be on getting lower-skilled/lower-educational-requirement jobs back to the U.S.
or moving out of Detroit
 
Old 01-24-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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or moving out of Detroit
to China, I suppose?

A fully functioning city should have employment opportunities for all skill and education levels. A person inserting a bolt on an assembly line 1000 times a day does not need a college degree or a high school diploma (or even a grade school education). And many such persons are gainfully employed in China. America, on the other hand is too good for "dirty industries" and has exported them.
 
Old 01-24-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Huntington Woods, MI
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I can't understand why Americans wouldn't want to work 12 hours a day for a total of $10 like the Chinese?
 
Old 01-24-2012, 12:07 PM
 
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Why should we focus on the black community? Also, I do have a college education and didn't have a problem finding a job, so I don't need to hear from some intellectual wannabe about who is educated and not. Like I said you go to schools to develop skills. The first step is completing high school. Denby is 99% black and has an attendance rate of 60%. Why do these high school dropouts deserve jobs? What skills could they have possibly developed besides how to run organized crime?
You know, I never hear such a line of reasoning when people are talking about out of wedlock births, welfare, crime or the like. People have no problem focusing on the black community, despite these things manifesting in white communities as well.

Ok....you have all the answers. Obviously these things are not happening that you said is the answer and they are not getting better. Thus, why are you averse to a National agenda to helpt things get better?
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