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Calories still matter on low carb diets. You will not lose on a low carb diet if you are overeating the calories required by your body and activity level.
Been there done that.
I think carb cycling is much easier and more effective as it is easier to maintain and doesn't give the illusion that a low carb diet does. (low carb makes you retain less water due to food which shows up as a lower number on the scale) Plus if you do low carb and try to go off it or just quit you are going to gain easily. You have to wean out of that way of eating. Its not as long of a period of weaning if you do the carb cycle method.
If you do a ketogenic diet correctly you don't have to worry about calories. You will eat the amount you need, period.
If you do a ketogenic diet correctly you don't have to worry about calories. You will eat the amount you need, period.
Sorry again this is not true. ANd you should't eat this way unless going to a doctor for constant monitoring to make sure you are not experiencing health issues.
It involves a consultation with the patient and their caregivers and, later, a short hospital admission.[18] Because of the risk of complications during ketogenic diet initiation, most centres begin the diet under close medical supervision in hospital.[8]
There are two ketonegenic diet wiki articles. One refers specifically to that medical diet that's done to treat epilepsy (among othe things) and requires regular medical monitoring.
The other is the disambiguation, which links you to the low-carbohydrate diet that we're talking about here in this thread. The point of the low-carb diet is to put the body into an artificial state of near-starvation (aka ketosis), thus forcing the body to burn fat instead of carbohydrate.
The main concern the medical community has with commercially-published low-carb diets, is that they emphasize the consumption of fats. Eating unlimited, or an overabundance of fats, is not healthy. Yes, you will lose weight going low-carb. But you will also increase your risk for heart attack and stroke. (notice I said increase your risk..I didn't say you'll get a heart attack and stroke. If your risk factor before going low-carb is .02, and you go low-carb, you might increase your risk to .1. High-fat diets -are- a risk factor for heart attacks and stroke, whether the diet gurus want to admit it or not).
There is also a problem with the term "low carb." Different diet publishers have different ideas of what that means, and none of them are the same as the medical definition. What the Zone Diet says is "low carb" is not the same as what Atkins says is "low carb." There is no way of knowing which one of them is correct and in fact, none of them are correct. They're just trying to sell a book, or frozen foods, or seminars, etc.
It's very easy for someone who is obese, to seek out a diet that fits a pattern of eating they feel they can live with, and claim that it is the "right" way to diet. And that is because it's easy for someone who is obese, to lose weight, by making pretty much -any- change to their current pattern of eating, as long as that pattern includes eating -less- of things that are making them fat.
Whether that is eliminating all bread and sugar entirely, or simply eating 2 fewer corn muffins than the 6-pack they've been eating every day, and only having one spoonful of gravy on only half the mashed potatoes as usual, instead of 6 spoonsful on twice the amount of mashed...
Any reduction in "whatever you're doing now" is likely to cause some weight loss.
And so they will find the ice cream diet, because they love ice cream, and that diet tells them they can have as much ice cream as they like, but they have to eat no mashed potatoes at all, and no bread or macaroni of any kind. To them, this is a great trade-off. And they will lose weight, and they will heartily endorse the Ice Cream Diet as the one and only true way to lose weight.
There will be those who claim the creamed corn diet is the only way to lose weight - when in fact, the reason you're losing weight, is because you're bulking up on an indigestible food that passes right through you into the toilet a few hours later.
Still others will proclaim the Laxative Diet as the only true savior of the obese; you eat all you want, and take 4 laxatives every day.
See the pattern yet? People will flock to whatever diet they feel can accommodate the foods they aren't willing to give up. And although these diets -will- make them lose weight, none of them are particularly healthy and in fact some (such as the laxative diet) are dangerous.
The end result:
You can eat well, and exercise daily, and maintain a healthy weight.
Or you can get obese, find a diet that fits what you're not willing to give up, lose weight fast, be unhealthy, but proclam the diet as your savior, and gain it all back a year later when you have determined the diet was a success and you don't need it anymore.
Or you can get obese, and discover "eating well and exercising daily" and return to the healthy body you had before you became obese.
Ultimately, it comes down to eating well, and exercising daily. There is no magic pill, there is no secret diet that the doctors don't want you to know about. They keep telling you what you need to do, but people don't want to hear it.
Smaller portions, fewer carbs (notice - not low carb, just fewer than whatever it is you're stuffing in your face currently), fewer fats (see again - not low-fat, not fat-free. Just fewer than whatever it is you're stuffing in your face currently), more veggies, more exercise. In mathematical terms: Burn off more calories than you consume.
There are two ketonegenic diet wiki articles. One refers specifically to that medical diet that's done to treat epilepsy (among othe things) and requires regular medical monitoring.
The other is the disambiguation, which links you to the low-carbohydrate diet that we're talking about here in this thread. The point of the low-carb diet is to put the body into an artificial state of near-starvation (aka ketosis), thus forcing the body to burn fat instead of carbohydrate.
The main concern the medical community has with commercially-published low-carb diets, is that they emphasize the consumption of fats. Eating unlimited, or an overabundance of fats, is not healthy. Yes, you will lose weight going low-carb. But you will also increase your risk for heart attack and stroke. (notice I said increase your risk..I didn't say you'll get a heart attack and stroke. If your risk factor before going low-carb is .02, and you go low-carb, you might increase your risk to .1. High-fat diets -are- a risk factor for heart attacks and stroke, whether the diet gurus want to admit it or not).
There is also a problem with the term "low carb." Different diet publishers have different ideas of what that means, and none of them are the same as the medical definition. What the Zone Diet says is "low carb" is not the same as what Atkins says is "low carb." There is no way of knowing which one of them is correct and in fact, none of them are correct. They're just trying to sell a book, or frozen foods, or seminars, etc.
It's very easy for someone who is obese, to seek out a diet that fits a pattern of eating they feel they can live with, and claim that it is the "right" way to diet. And that is because it's easy for someone who is obese, to lose weight, by making pretty much -any- change to their current pattern of eating, as long as that pattern includes eating -less- of things that are making them fat.
Whether that is eliminating all bread and sugar entirely, or simply eating 2 fewer corn muffins than the 6-pack they've been eating every day, and only having one spoonful of gravy on only half the mashed potatoes as usual, instead of 6 spoonsful on twice the amount of mashed...
Any reduction in "whatever you're doing now" is likely to cause some weight loss.
And so they will find the ice cream diet, because they love ice cream, and that diet tells them they can have as much ice cream as they like, but they have to eat no mashed potatoes at all, and no bread or macaroni of any kind. To them, this is a great trade-off. And they will lose weight, and they will heartily endorse the Ice Cream Diet as the one and only true way to lose weight.
There will be those who claim the creamed corn diet is the only way to lose weight - when in fact, the reason you're losing weight, is because you're bulking up on an indigestible food that passes right through you into the toilet a few hours later.
Still others will proclaim the Laxative Diet as the only true savior of the obese; you eat all you want, and take 4 laxatives every day.
See the pattern yet? People will flock to whatever diet they feel can accommodate the foods they aren't willing to give up. And although these diets -will- make them lose weight, none of them are particularly healthy and in fact some (such as the laxative diet) are dangerous.
The end result:
You can eat well, and exercise daily, and maintain a healthy weight.
Or you can get obese, find a diet that fits what you're not willing to give up, lose weight fast, be unhealthy, but proclam the diet as your savior, and gain it all back a year later when you have determined the diet was a success and you don't need it anymore.
Or you can get obese, and discover "eating well and exercising daily" and return to the healthy body you had before you became obese.
Ultimately, it comes down to eating well, and exercising daily. There is no magic pill, there is no secret diet that the doctors don't want you to know about. They keep telling you what you need to do, but people don't want to hear it.
Smaller portions, fewer carbs (notice - not low carb, just fewer than whatever it is you're stuffing in your face currently), fewer fats (see again - not low-fat, not fat-free. Just fewer than whatever it is you're stuffing in your face currently), more veggies, more exercise. In mathematical terms: Burn off more calories than you consume.
Low carb diets are extremely healthy and effective for losing weight and maintaining weight loss. I highly recommend it to anyone who needs to lose weight and who has tried and failed to simply cut calories and exercise more.
There are two ketonegenic diet wiki articles. One refers specifically to that medical diet that's done to treat epilepsy (among othe things) and requires regular medical monitoring.
The other is the disambiguation, which links you to the low-carbohydrate diet that we're talking about here in this thread. The point of the low-carb diet is to put the body into an artificial state of near-starvation (aka ketosis), thus forcing the body to burn fat instead of carbohydrate.
The main concern the medical community has with commercially-published low-carb diets, is that they emphasize the consumption of fats. Eating unlimited, or an overabundance of fats, is not healthy. Yes, you will lose weight going low-carb. But you will also increase your risk for heart attack and stroke. (notice I said increase your risk..I didn't say you'll get a heart attack and stroke. If your risk factor before going low-carb is .02, and you go low-carb, you might increase your risk to .1. High-fat diets -are- a risk factor for heart attacks and stroke, whether the diet gurus want to admit it or not).
There is also a problem with the term "low carb." Different diet publishers have different ideas of what that means, and none of them are the same as the medical definition. What the Zone Diet says is "low carb" is not the same as what Atkins says is "low carb." There is no way of knowing which one of them is correct and in fact, none of them are correct. They're just trying to sell a book, or frozen foods, or seminars, etc.
It's very easy for someone who is obese, to seek out a diet that fits a pattern of eating they feel they can live with, and claim that it is the "right" way to diet. And that is because it's easy for someone who is obese, to lose weight, by making pretty much -any- change to their current pattern of eating, as long as that pattern includes eating -less- of things that are making them fat.
Whether that is eliminating all bread and sugar entirely, or simply eating 2 fewer corn muffins than the 6-pack they've been eating every day, and only having one spoonful of gravy on only half the mashed potatoes as usual, instead of 6 spoonsful on twice the amount of mashed...
Any reduction in "whatever you're doing now" is likely to cause some weight loss.
And so they will find the ice cream diet, because they love ice cream, and that diet tells them they can have as much ice cream as they like, but they have to eat no mashed potatoes at all, and no bread or macaroni of any kind. To them, this is a great trade-off. And they will lose weight, and they will heartily endorse the Ice Cream Diet as the one and only true way to lose weight.
There will be those who claim the creamed corn diet is the only way to lose weight - when in fact, the reason you're losing weight, is because you're bulking up on an indigestible food that passes right through you into the toilet a few hours later.
Still others will proclaim the Laxative Diet as the only true savior of the obese; you eat all you want, and take 4 laxatives every day.
See the pattern yet? People will flock to whatever diet they feel can accommodate the foods they aren't willing to give up. And although these diets -will- make them lose weight, none of them are particularly healthy and in fact some (such as the laxative diet) are dangerous.
The end result:
You can eat well, and exercise daily, and maintain a healthy weight.
Or you can get obese, find a diet that fits what you're not willing to give up, lose weight fast, be unhealthy, but proclam the diet as your savior, and gain it all back a year later when you have determined the diet was a success and you don't need it anymore.
Or you can get obese, and discover "eating well and exercising daily" and return to the healthy body you had before you became obese.
Ultimately, it comes down to eating well, and exercising daily. There is no magic pill, there is no secret diet that the doctors don't want you to know about. They keep telling you what you need to do, but people don't want to hear it.
Smaller portions, fewer carbs (notice - not low carb, just fewer than whatever it is you're stuffing in your face currently), fewer fats (see again - not low-fat, not fat-free. Just fewer than whatever it is you're stuffing in your face currently), more veggies, more exercise. In mathematical terms: Burn off more calories than you consume.
This country's twin epidemics of obesity and diabetes coincided with our country's ill advised war on eating fat. More and more physicians are saying the same thing. I've upped my fat intake and all of my blood lipid tests have improved and all are within normal ranges.
Eating refined carbohydrates is what causes heart disease and diabetes, not fat.
There are two ketonegenic diet wiki articles. One refers specifically to that medical diet that's done to treat epilepsy (among othe things) and requires regular medical monitoring.
The other is the disambiguation, which links you to the low-carbohydrate diet that we're talking about here in this thread. The point of the low-carb diet is to put the body into an artificial state of near-starvation (aka ketosis), thus forcing the body to burn fat instead of carbohydrate.
The main concern the medical community has with commercially-published low-carb diets, is that they emphasize the consumption of fats. Eating unlimited, or an overabundance of fats, is not healthy. Yes, you will lose weight going low-carb. But you will also increase your risk for heart attack and stroke. (notice I said increase your risk..I didn't say you'll get a heart attack and stroke. If your risk factor before going low-carb is .02, and you go low-carb, you might increase your risk to .1. High-fat diets -are- a risk factor for heart attacks and stroke, whether the diet gurus want to admit it or not).
There is also a problem with the term "low carb." Different diet publishers have different ideas of what that means, and none of them are the same as the medical definition. What the Zone Diet says is "low carb" is not the same as what Atkins says is "low carb." There is no way of knowing which one of them is correct and in fact, none of them are correct. They're just trying to sell a book, or frozen foods, or seminars, etc.
It's very easy for someone who is obese, to seek out a diet that fits a pattern of eating they feel they can live with, and claim that it is the "right" way to diet. And that is because it's easy for someone who is obese, to lose weight, by making pretty much -any- change to their current pattern of eating, as long as that pattern includes eating -less- of things that are making them fat.
Whether that is eliminating all bread and sugar entirely, or simply eating 2 fewer corn muffins than the 6-pack they've been eating every day, and only having one spoonful of gravy on only half the mashed potatoes as usual, instead of 6 spoonsful on twice the amount of mashed...
Any reduction in "whatever you're doing now" is likely to cause some weight loss.
And so they will find the ice cream diet, because they love ice cream, and that diet tells them they can have as much ice cream as they like, but they have to eat no mashed potatoes at all, and no bread or macaroni of any kind. To them, this is a great trade-off. And they will lose weight, and they will heartily endorse the Ice Cream Diet as the one and only true way to lose weight.
There will be those who claim the creamed corn diet is the only way to lose weight - when in fact, the reason you're losing weight, is because you're bulking up on an indigestible food that passes right through you into the toilet a few hours later.
Still others will proclaim the Laxative Diet as the only true savior of the obese; you eat all you want, and take 4 laxatives every day.
See the pattern yet? People will flock to whatever diet they feel can accommodate the foods they aren't willing to give up. And although these diets -will- make them lose weight, none of them are particularly healthy and in fact some (such as the laxative diet) are dangerous.
The end result:
You can eat well, and exercise daily, and maintain a healthy weight.
Or you can get obese, find a diet that fits what you're not willing to give up, lose weight fast, be unhealthy, but proclam the diet as your savior, and gain it all back a year later when you have determined the diet was a success and you don't need it anymore.
Or you can get obese, and discover "eating well and exercising daily" and return to the healthy body you had before you became obese.
Ultimately, it comes down to eating well, and exercising daily. There is no magic pill, there is no secret diet that the doctors don't want you to know about. They keep telling you what you need to do, but people don't want to hear it.
Smaller portions, fewer carbs (notice - not low carb, just fewer than whatever it is you're stuffing in your face currently), fewer fats (see again - not low-fat, not fat-free. Just fewer than whatever it is you're stuffing in your face currently), more veggies, more exercise. In mathematical terms: Burn off more calories than you consume.
I'm of the opinion that people should follow a healthy diet that they can stay on. Higher fat diets are fine as long as you keep them low carb. Obesity and type 2 diabetes are at epidemic levels because a lot Americans eat a combination of high fat foods AND too many processed carbohydrates.
Fat alone is not the problem. Carbs alone are not the problem. The problem is that Americans have ignored the low fat advice but held on to the high carb mantra.
Personally I think low carb diets are great for type 2 diabetics and people with insulin resistance. And considering that we are in the midst of a type 2 diabetes epidemic, I think it would be wise for the majority of the medical community to rethink their position on low carb diets.
I'm on a low carb diet myself. My lipids are fine, my blood glucose levels have never been better (even better than when I was on insulin), and I've lost 35 pounds so far.
I was able to get off insulin within three weeks. There is no way I would've been able to get off insulin that quickly following the diet pushed by the American Diabetes Association.
If you want to follow a moderation everything diet that's fine, just don't assume that that is the right diet for everyone.
One thing Anon and others haven't mentioned about diet 'failures' is that many people cut way down on ....whatever.....and lose no weight, so say it is a failure when what they have done is reduced their intake to the point of not gaining more, a unnoticed success in itself.
They needed to take it a few calories more (less, actually) to lose.
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