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Old 05-17-2019, 09:55 PM
 
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Here is Dr. Mindy Pelz on when autophagy kicks in on a fast.

It's at 3:15.

From 13 to 16 hours of a fast, it's Growth Hormone.

At 16+ hours Autophagy begins.

She can be cross reference and/or corroborated. Lots of additional info in this video also.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UgLueOeuWk
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:14 PM
 
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Very cool. Thank you! :-)

I plan on going on longer fasts, and do an OMAD Tuesday, Friday and Sunday:

Tuesday to Friday: 72 hours
Friday to Sunday: 48 hours
Sunday to Tuesday: 48 hours
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:04 PM
 
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See also:
Autophagy Fasting: The Mystery Explained by Dr. Boz

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rDzIbkyr5QQ

A One-Day Starvation Secret Got the Nobel Prize

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gl8k2ncIQMc
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Old 05-19-2019, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Here is Dr. Mindy Pelz on when autophagy kicks in on a fast.

It's at 3:15.

From 13 to 16 hours of a fast, it's Growth Hormone.

At 16+ hours Autophagy begins.

She can be cross reference and/or corroborated. Lots of additional info in this video also.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UgLueOeuWk
And how would you do that?
FYI, putting a up a white board behind you with a graph isn't a reference. No linked studies provided.
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Old 05-19-2019, 10:49 PM
 
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In response to your PM Digital:

You're aware your first video is by a convicted felon who only recently got her medical license back? That's why I like actual sources. Actual peer reviewed science means a lot more to me than random YouTube video. It doesn't mean she's wrong, but since she is a felon who was convicted for in a word lying it's a bit of a red flag for me. If there's actual studies provided that say the same thing, autophagy in humans in 16 hours, by all means I'd love to see them. I've spent a fair amount of time searching because the topic is interesting to me. I haven't found it.
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Old 05-19-2019, 11:33 PM
 
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You're aware your first video is by a convicted felon who only recently got her medical license back? That's why i like actual sources. Actual peer reviewed science means a lot more to me than random youtube video. It doesn't mean she's wrong, but since she is a felon who was convicted for in a word lying it's a bit of a red flag for me. If there's actual studies provided that say the same thing, autophagy in humans in 16 hours, by all means i'd love to see them. I've spent a fair amount of time searching because the topic is interesting to me. I haven't found it.
+1.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:35 AM
 
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In response to your PM Digital:

You're aware your first video is by a convicted felon who only recently got her medical license back? That's why I like actual sources. Actual peer reviewed science means a lot more to me than random YouTube video. It doesn't mean she's wrong, but since she is a felon who was convicted for in a word lying it's a bit of a red flag for me. If there's actual studies provided that say the same thing, autophagy in humans in 16 hours, by all means I'd love to see them. I've spent a fair amount of time searching because the topic is interesting to me. I haven't found it.
What about proof of your remarks? I don't see any link substantiating, for example, that the lady is a felon? You want proof but you don't seem to be offering any.
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Old 05-20-2019, 10:17 AM
 
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I would say that the main trigger for Autophagy is bodily stress. Being hungry and actually feeling hunger pains is a form of stress. Going for long periods without eating (obviously) is another. Strenuous exercise in a fasted state is yet another. That type of thing. Disease actually triggers autophagy and would be a type of stress as well. It's a body's way of repairing itself. Come to think about it, autophagy happens regardless, just much more when we are fasting. It has to, the body is constantly renewing its own cells.

Oxidative stress and autophagy: the clash between damage and metabolic needs
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:03 AM
 
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I would say that the main trigger for Autophagy is bodily stress. Being hungry and actually feeling hunger pains is a form of stress. Going for long periods without eating (obviously) is another. Strenuous exercise in a fasted state is yet another. That type of thing. Disease actually triggers autophagy and would be a type of stress as well. It's a body's way of repairing itself. Come to think about it, autophagy happens regardless, just much more when we are fasting. It has to, the body is constantly renewing its own cells.

Oxidative stress and autophagy: the clash between damage and metabolic needs
I appreciate that you post these academic studies, but I am not going to pretend to understand them. Perhaps those who have the intellectual background will find them helpful, but this is not the academic area in which I have training, which is string pedagogy and musicology.

Pretending that I can read and understand the medical research posted would be dishonest. But perhaps (?) this is what Mr. Malloric is looking for?
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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What about proof of your remarks? I don't see any link substantiating, for example, that the lady is a felon? You want proof but you don't seem to be offering any.
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What about proof of your remarks? I don't see any link substantiating, for example, that the lady is a felon? You want proof but you don't seem to be offering any.
In case you're actually legitimately interested here's the actual SD Supreme Court opinion on appeal:
https://law.justia.com/cases/south-d...017/27510.html

Vacated the six perjury convictions, upheld the less serious six felonies. Hence why the medical license wasn't permanently yanked.
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