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Keto is not just a diet, it's changing your body's fuel source from carb to fat. It is the only way to burn fat the quickest. You don't need to eat foods to be on keto. You can simply fast or exercise to get your body into ketosis, eating certain foods accelerates ketosis. You can be on vegan or carnivore diet and get into ketosis which is using bodyfat as fuel. So regardless of which diet plan you pick, the mechanism of body fat burning to energy is ketosis.
So you are misinformed like that luckydog person that thinks keto is only a diet. I want to accelerate fat burning so I want to induce ketosis by fasting.
No, I am not misinformed. I lived it and I didn't like it after 6 months. You are so myopic about dieting. Just because something works for you may not work for someone else. The reasons are many. The ONLY way someone is going to lose weight and maintain the loss is to follow a food plan that works for them. Maybe its keto, maybe cico, maybe its fasting. There is no diet that meets the needs for everyone.
Be happy you found what works for you and step off the soapbox.
Keto is not just a diet, it's changing your body's fuel source from carb to fat. It is the only way to burn fat the quickest. You don't need to eat foods to be on keto. You can simply fast or exercise to get your body into ketosis, eating certain foods accelerates ketosis. You can be on vegan or carnivore diet and get into ketosis which is using bodyfat as fuel. So regardless of which diet plan you pick, the mechanism of body fat burning to energy is ketosis.
So you are misinformed like that luckydog person that thinks keto is only a diet. I want to accelerate fat burning so I want to induce ketosis by fasting.
This method of Keto you are speaking of is just another way to lose fat and is NOT superior to calorie/protein equated, non-ketogenic diets. We have multiple studies comparing ketogenic to non-ketogenic in TIGHTLY controlled settings and see absolutely NO difference in fat loss.
I do Trim Healthy Mama. I lost 50 pounds on it six years ago. It is a sugar free, artificial sweetener free, low glycemic diet. Basically, you eat either carbs and protein or fat and protein. You don't eat carbs and fats together.
Except for the occasional small amount of low-carb vegetables, I basically do no-carb/high'ish-fat/moderate protein. This is my "favorite" because it works best for me.
I have to agree with this. There is no "vegan", no "keto", no other "-ism" when it comes to diet or anything else.
There is only one diet, the one that works for the particular individual. Period.
For me that is mostly whole grain carbohydrates - homemade rye and other grains bread, pasta, rice, some potatoes - and lots of vegetables, herbs and spices, nuts, and fruits, little or no processed "food", especially processed sugar, to be avoided like the plague.
I do eat once in a while salmon & scallops, also chicken, even ground beef if other household members, namely children, leave it over and it's sitting in the fridge for several days so as not to waste it (I'm a weirdo, I hate waste). Little or no dairy, including eggs.
In the past, I ate three meals a day, for several years I cut it to twice a day, and lately just once a day.
Everyday I do stretching exercises, and I try to walk at least a mile a day, sometimes two. No need for any special equipment, the body does the body by itself.
I am in the middle of the "normal" range of the BMI index for my weight and height and slowly drifting towards the bottom part of the range.
My motto is, eat as little as possible the highest quality foods possible.
Another trustworthy saying: less is more.
No complaints.
To be sure, today I could die of heart-attack or accident, in a couple of weeks of pneumonia, and maybe in a couple of years of prostate cancer. Who knows?
One cycle of breath at a time.
No complaints.
Good Luck!
It's fascinating to me how two diametrically opposed diets have followers who claim pretty much the exact same health benefits: both Keto and Whole food people say they've lost weight, reversed their diabetes, reduced blood pressure etc. I discovered Keto, and so have always taken it as gospel that carbs such as bread, rice, potatoes are the enemy that activate insulin and cause so many other health problems. This view is supported by several doctors who go on Youtube and list studies proving this.
And yet, the same thing happens with the Whole Foods camp, who also have tons of supporters and doctors on Youtube singing its praises. So how can this be? According to the Keto group, people eating whole food diets should be suffering diabetes and inflammation, yet that doesnt seem to be the case.
Me personally, I've been Keto for two months now. I'm also doing OMAD. Lost 30 pounds so far. My blood pressure was in the 140s, and that was with me being on THREE different medications. For the last two months now my blood pressure is in the 110-120 range. I'm hoping by the time I go in to see my doctor we can start talking about maybe reducing my medications. So yeah Keto has worked for me, but I'm not some fanatic who bashes all other options. I'm just genuinely curious as to how the Whole food diet is able to work given what Keto says about it.
It's fascinating to me how two diametrically opposed diets have followers who claim pretty much the exact same health benefits: both Keto and Whole food people say they've lost weight, reversed their diabetes, reduced blood pressure etc. I discovered Keto, and so have always taken it as gospel that carbs such as bread, rice, potatoes are the enemy that activate insulin and cause so many other health problems. This view is supported by several doctors who go on Youtube and list studies proving this.
And yet, the same thing happens with the Whole Foods camp, who also have tons of supporters and doctors on Youtube singing its praises. So how can this be? According to the Keto group, people eating whole food diets should be suffering diabetes and inflammation, yet that doesnt seem to be the case.
Me personally, I've been Keto for two months now. I'm also doing OMAD. Lost 30 pounds so far. My blood pressure was in the 140s, and that was with me being on THREE different medications. For the last two months now my blood pressure is in the 110-120 range. I'm hoping by the time I go in to see my doctor we can start talking about maybe reducing my medications. So yeah Keto has worked for me, but I'm not some fanatic who bashes all other options. I'm just genuinely curious as to how the Whole food diet is able to work given what Keto says about it.
Nobody is claiming that Keto doesn't work. Where the issue comes in is when the Keto group claims that the Keto diet is the superior diet over all other diets because it worked for them. Currently we have no scientific data/studies showing that Keto is superior over any other diet in reducing weight or is any healthier than a whole foods diet.
The common theme in all diets is you are reducing total caloric intake thus the health benefits and weight loss mainly come from the reduced caloric intake, not avoiding specific foods.
The take home message is to go on the diet plan and method that best works for you that you can maintain in the long term.
Nobody is claiming that Keto doesn't work. Where the issue comes in is when the Keto group claims that the Keto diet is the superior diet over all other diets because it worked for them. Currently we have no scientific data/studies showing that Keto is superior over any other diet in reducing weight or is any healthier than a whole foods diet.
The common theme in all diets is you are reducing total caloric intake thus the health benefits and weight loss mainly come from the reduced caloric intake, not avoiding specific foods.
The take home message is to go on the diet plan and method that best works for you that you can maintain in the long term.
But that's the thing: Keto is NOT about reducing caloric intake, especially if you are doing intermittent fasting. For example arguably the top keto guy on Youtube Dr Eric Berg insists that you eat 7 cups of vegetables every day, in addition to whatever protein and fat you are having as well, and remember this is supposed to be a high fat, moderate protein and low carb diet.
From my understanding of Keto at least, it's very much about specific foods you are eating and equally important NOT eating. Eating lots of high quality fats, green vegetables and fatty meats is great on keto. Eating any of the other carbs, even the whole grain organic stuff is considered a big no-no.
And that's what gets me because I know over in the Whole Food world, eating lots of whole grains, fruits, rice, bread etc is what you're supposed to do. I hope you all can see that I'm not advocating one over the other at all. I'm just surprised how in one world a group of foods is supposed to wreck your health, yet over in the other lane that same group of foods is the savior.
But that's the thing: Keto is NOT about reducing caloric intake, especially if you are doing intermittent fasting. For example arguably the top keto guy on Youtube Dr Eric Berg insists that you eat 7 cups of vegetables every day, in addition to whatever protein and fat you are having as well, and remember this is supposed to be a high fat, moderate protein and low carb diet.
From my understanding of Keto at least, it's very much about specific foods you are eating and equally important NOT eating. Eating lots of high quality fats, green vegetables and fatty meats is great on keto. Eating any of the other carbs, even the whole grain organic stuff is considered a big no-no.
And that's what gets me because I know over in the Whole Food world, eating lots of whole grains, fruits, rice, bread etc is what you're supposed to do. I hope you all can see that I'm not advocating one over the other at all. I'm just surprised how in one world a group of foods is supposed to wreck your health, yet over in the other lane that same group of foods is the savior.
If you are coming from a standard american diet and going to a Keto Diet by default you are reducing total caloric intake. That is why you are losing weight.
I could do the same thing switching from a standard american diet to a twinkie diet and still lose 25 lbs simply because I reduced my total caloric intake.
BTW you can still gain weight doing Keto.
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If you are coming from a standard american diet and going to a Keto Diet by default you are reducing total caloric intake. That is why you are losing weight.
I could do the same thing switching from a standard american diet to a twinkie diet and still lose 25 lbs simply because I reduced my total caloric intake.
BTW you can still gain weight doing Keto.
Now that's interesting you say that. Every time I've heard anyone talk about gaining weight or bulking up, it's almost always involves eating more carbs, smoothies, shakes etc. I've never heard anyone talk of keto as a way to gain weight.
Now that's interesting you say that. Every time I've heard anyone talk about gaining weight or bulking up, it's almost always involves eating more carbs, smoothies, shakes etc. I've never heard anyone talk of keto as a way to gain weight.
Here ya go, many articles talk about using keto as a way to gain weight.
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