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Old 08-10-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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Well I can see that a lot of people are commenting instead of watching the film....

Discipline does not fix addiction or change the fact that most people do not know how to eat correctly.
You know there are full grown adults out there that can't even read and people that do not take it seriously or see all the little details on why dieting feels so hard.

Saying "no" to unhealthy habits is over simplifying it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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I just viewed this documentary at Snag Films. If "Fast Food Nation" or "Super Size Me" interested you then this movie is a must-watch.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Wine Country
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No one dies from being obese; they die from complications that arose because of obesity. Diabetes is on the rise in this country, and it's well known that obesity is a trigger of adult onset diabetes. If someone dies of diabetes and they're also obese, we can say their obesity predisposed them to get diabetes, but diabetes is still listed as cause of death.

I know it's splitting hairs, but what kind of statistics are there about not only the most immediate cause of death, but also the underlying factors? Obesity also contributes to the risk of heart attack, stroke, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, gout, osteoarthritis, knee problems, etc. Some of these aren't life threatening, but they are debilitating.
Obesity related medical issues:

What are the consequences of overweight and obesity?
Health Consequences
Research has shown that as weight increases to reach the levels referred to as "overweight" and "obesity,"* the risks for the following conditions also increases:1
Coronary heart disease
Type 2 diabetes
Cancers (endometrial, breast, and colon)
Hypertension (high blood pressure)
Dyslipidemia (for example, high total cholesterol or high levels of triglycerides)
Stroke
Liver and Gallbladder disease
Sleep apnea and respiratory problems
Osteoarthritis (a degeneration of cartilage and its underlying bone within a joint)
Gynecological problems (abnormal menses, infertility)

If one is obese and then loses weight these problems greatly diminish.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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Obesity is a threat because we dont stress health in elementary schools. So many obese righteous do-gooders complain about the fat kids' inability to do basic exercise so they force everyone else to NOT do certain exercises because the fat parents' fat kids will complain. Parents also need to make the health of their children their number one priority. Unfortunately, many do not.
So True. I agree with everything you said in your post. Its sad, but true.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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You hit the nail on the head. That is EXACTLY what it's about.

Personally, I think it's much cheaper, faster, and more correct to prepare my own healthy meals at home. Eating out for us is really a rarity. And to be honest, my son would rather me prepare his lunch, than eat that junk at school, any day of the week. And I do...every day. It simply requires a change of perspective, of values, and of goals.
Absolutely. And unhealthy food is not 'cheap' either. It costs your health.

We just need to be more creative with making healthy foods at home as its not readily available in a box or jars. Its all excuses about healthy foods costing more. Use frozen veggies if you cant afford fresh produce. Make low sodium broth at home, instead of buying a carton. Buy seasonal fruits that are cheaper in that season. These simple substitues saves a bunch of money & calories. Once you try & test different homemade recipes, its easier to stick to them forever.

Healthy foods are not promoted as much as they should be. Instead we see celebrities in movies/reality shows carrying a giant coke or getting drive thru foods. In reality they have clean eating habits & are just endorsing the poison for money so dont brain wash the kids that you can eat that junk & still manage to look like that. Show the consequences of good & bad instead of misleading with lies. Show obese people in papa johns & big mac commercials. Just like Star Jones would never shop at payless shoes but she wouldn't mind doing the commercial for money. If they want to do a junk food commercial, make them eat it for a year & then do the commercial. Not saying that celebrities or ads are responsible for our weight but its just one of many examples how people get the idea its alrite to eat junk foods & still manage to look like the slim models in the ads. When it doesn't work for us, we start thinking that something might be wrong with our body like being big boned or thyroid or genetics. Anyone can lose weight with healthy diet & exercise.

Junk food should be 'frowned upon' like a taboo. The attitude of society makes a huge difference in making healthy choices. Thats how we got rid of smoking culture. Nobody endorses them anymore & movies that show people smoking have a warning that smoking is injurious for health. Thats the kind of attitude we need towards junk foods.

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Old 12-11-2012, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Junk food should be 'frowned upon' like a taboo. The attitude of society makes a huge difference in making healthy choices. Thats how we got rid of smoking culture. Nobody endorses them anymore & movies that show people smoking have a warning that smoking is injurious for health. Thats the kind of attitude we need towards junk foods.
We've had that attitude for several decades and people keep getting fatter. It does give finger-wagging descendants of Puritans something to do, though.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:09 AM
 
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Watched the documnentary last night. My favorite part was the 'meeting' govt. had with all these big corporations - general mills, kellogs, tyson, pepsi, etc. to find a solution to obesity & they come up with the solution that people need to exercise more. Not a word on cutting down junk food or regulating these corporations. Yes exercise is half of the solution but the other half is eating right. If you eat only sugars & carbs all day & burn it out, its still not going to supply the essential vitamins & nutrients that only healthy foods can provide you. Another documentary I would highly recommend is 'Food, Inc.'
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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What we need is education. It's easy to understand that vegetable oils, corn syrup and gluten in wheat are the main cause of the obesity crisis. Until people eliminate these foods, they will never lose weight.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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What we need is education. It's easy to understand that vegetable oils, corn syrup and gluten in wheat are the main cause of the obesity crisis. Until people eliminate these foods, they will never lose weight.
Wrong. Those contribute but are not the reason alone. There are many factors that contribute to obesity. Lots of people eat gluten and use vegetable oils and lose weight and are healthy.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:19 PM
 
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Wrong. Those contribute but are not the reason alone. There are many factors that contribute to obesity. Lots of people eat gluten and use vegetable oils and lose weight and are healthy.
And, lots of people eat gluten, veggie oils, and foods containing corn syrup, and don't need to lose weight in the first place.

In fact, you could take a look at all the healthy-weight people in the USA, and examine their diets. You'll probably find that most of them enjoy grains, vegetable oils, and foods containing corn syrup (among whatever else they eat).

Even more - you might find that among the demographic presumed to be among the -least- overweight - vegetarians and vegans - are the *most* likely to include grains, vegetable oils, and foods containing corn syrup in MORE of their diet, than any other demographic of least-overweight people.
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