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Old 09-21-2013, 07:21 AM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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Okay, we have an adorable 3 month old Havanese. We are crate training her and she is excellent about not eliminating in the crate and she goes outside all the time. When she does her business outside, we praise and love right after. She won't even use the pee pads she was brought up on at the breeders home. She knows outside is good for potty.

HOWEVER, when she is not in the crate and is with us playing or just sitting with us, she will squat quick and pee. What's up with that? How will she learn that our floors are not for peeing? At what point does it hit her that absolutely no where inside is the bathroom?

What triggers the change in her mind?

Last edited by The Villages Guy; 09-21-2013 at 07:54 AM.. Reason: Had to stop post mid post to bring her out to pee
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Old 09-21-2013, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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I would smack with a paper(for noise not to hurt) and quickly pickup and place outside.We recently added a puppy to our home. We do not use a cage. Watching her actions we can pretty well predict when we must go out. We also have 2 housebroken adult dogs and the puppy must be learning by seeing what they do. This was the easiest to break I have ever had.
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Old 09-21-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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First, be sure you're giving her all the opportunities to pee. Take her out as soon as she comes out of the crate, after waking up, whether it's from a long sleep or just a nap, after eating, and after playing which sort of stirs everything up. Take her out every hour if need be for now, then slowly increase the time. Watch her carefully for signs she needs to pee, like sniffing and circling.
Mainly, though, this will just take time. Dogs learn that peeing outside makes their owners happy before it sinks in that that's the *only* place they should do it. When you take her out, always use the word outside so she learns what that is. Then, when she does go in the house, tell her calmly, no, go pee outside, and hustle her outside even though it's too late. She'll catch on. Enjoy your puppy and when things get tough, remember puppyhood is a lot shorter than childhood!
Edit: Just saw post above. No need to scare her!! No newspapers. This will just make her nervous, make her hide to pee in the house, and make her think you're scary and unpredictable.
Oh, one more edit lol. Make sure you're cleaning up the spot with a good enzyme cleaner made for pet stains, so that the smell doesn't attract her to peeing there again.
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Old 09-21-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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Predicting when she is going to poo is easy, as she circles a lot.

Peeing is another story with her. There is zero warning and she is such a small breed, she is close to the ground. You think she may have just sat down, but then you see Niagara falls flowing out from from underneath. No way to predict or catch her when peeing.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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As soon as you see the falls starting, make a quick ah-ah noise to catch her attention and say "outside!" and shoo her toward the door. It might not work the first time, but soon you'll at least be able to interrupt her and get her outside. That ah ah noise becomes good for quickly interrupting unwanted behavior, telling the dog whatever you're doing right this instant needs to stop.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: North Western NJ
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take that rolled up newspaper and whack yourself a few times with it then say BAD HUMAN and put the paper where it belongs longnecker...

it is a little harder to see with small dogs but heres where you should start.
1: put yourself on a timer...take her outside every hour to start, only hwne accidents stop completely can you start to expand her time between potty vistis.
2: tether and crate, don't give her the opportunity t sneak off, or yourself the opportunity to become "lazy"
3: understand that excersize (playtime) helps those muscles relax AND when a puppy is al caught up in the moment they tend to forget they need to go until its too late.

my general rules for house breaking...
potty the moment they wake up form a nap, before and after playtime, imediatly after comming out of the crate, and after meals. and every hour inbetween to start off with.
don't let her out of your sight unless hes in her crate and be persistent.
if you se her even looking like she MIgHT be thinking about going pee, off outside...
if you catch her mid stream a sharp "ah-ah" or "UHOH!" and scop her up...(the act of picking her up usually stops the flow mid pee) tae her outside, no anger no fuss, just an "uh-oh" nice and loud, scoop and outside, then in a happy tone encourage her to go potty and praise as usual when she does.

your on the right track! just sounds lie its mabe not quite frequent enough and she hasn't yet learnt to ell you (or to recognize the feeling when shes distracted.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:50 AM
 
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I think at 3 months she won't always pay attention to her own body that she has to go in enough time to give you a signal. She really is just a baby still. Just like kids who would rather continue playing then go to the bathroom. There are plenty of posts about training on here that are very helpful. The attention you pay now and time you invest in her training will be come back to you 10 fold BUT you have to be watchful every minute she is not crated.
I would make sure she goes out hourly to potty. You should be able to predict when she has to go by paying attention to when she eats and drinks. Covering your floor in her play area with something waterproof will keep your floors from being ruined and when you catch her squatting...take her outside to continue. I agree with the above post not to scare her with newspaper...she will learn to fear you and hide when she has to go to the bathroom.

Congratulations on your new pup. Give her time and patience and she will learn to understand what is expected of her.
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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See post #5 by viralmd:

Bathroom issues in adopted dog

There are several more with never fail potty training by viralmd, if you follow them too t he letter they will work, you puppy is young and won't have full control for a few more months.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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take that rolled up newspaper and whack yourself a few times with it then say BAD HUMAN and put the paper where it belongs longnecker...
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foxy you may not like it but it works. I take a puppy out OFTEN and seldom need to get her attention. She must learn from watching the bigger dogs. I have never seen a dog train quicker or easier and have always had one or two dogs since I became an adult. (Many years ago)
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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A lot of the smaller breeds really don't have the bowel and bladder muscle control that they'll have once they mature, it takes time, patience and a lot of consistency, tons of praise helps too and maybe even a tasty treat(small piece of cooked chicken breast etc), the trick is to give it to her verry soon after she goes so she relates the action with the treat, you can cook it ahead for her and put it in small plastic bags in the freezer so you can have as needed, a very small piece is fine

Another thought and I may have missed this, it helps if you're feeding her at regularly scheduled times, to get her on somewhat of a schedule so you know approx when she has to go, some of mine give the most subtle clues and you really have to watch with a hawk eye if you think they may 'go', we would stay outside with them to know if they were going to go, heck we'd even walk them in the yard on a 4 ft leash , they were out there to go, not to play, they could play later (and most of the time that worked)
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