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Old 08-21-2018, 03:34 AM
 
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Where I live, public lands require all dogs to be leashed, so the OP was completely out of line having their dog running free.
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the OP said nothing about her dog running free.
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Yes she did. Read post #12. She mentions leashing her dog at the end.
She also mentioned this in the same paragraph:

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Note that the area is dog friendly and leashes are not required in the woods. We go there all the time to walk and never had a major issue like this.
That said, she appeared to have absolutely no control of her dog, who she mentioned was an 8-month-old pup. Until an owner is confident that a dog has good recall training, I don't think they should be running off-leash in a public area, even if it is designated as leash-free.

(Made that mistake myself once, a great many years ago. I was in a leash-free area with my dog who I'd adopted a week before, and took off her leash to let her play. After running around for 10 minutes or so she spotted a woman sitting on a park bench, leapt onto the bench and sat herself down right next to her. Didn't touch the woman, didn't try to lick her or paw her, didn't get close enough to touch her...just sat next to her (weirdest thing I'd ever seen, really). The woman had been reading a book, looked up and started screaming at the top of her lungs. I quickly removed my dog and, that day, began recall training at home. Learned my lesson. )
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:05 PM
 
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C'mon, the OP was EIGHT YEARS AGO. Why beat up on her now?

Yes, I would move to protect my dog, but I'm 5'2", disabled, female. It is unlikely I would actually ATTACK someone. Actually that would have been unlikely even 30 years ago. First I would attempt to get us out of there. And with cell phones today I would be on the phone to 911 while I ran.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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I would respond the same way I would if someone threatened or attacked my child: I would defend my dogs (or cat) using whatever weapons were at hand, and using whatever force was necessary. If I had to kill the attacker, I would--without any hesitation or a moment's future regret.

You do NOT attack someone else's family member; you always should defend yourself and your family members if attacked.
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:00 PM
 
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I would respond the same way I would if someone threatened or attacked my child: I would defend my dogs (or cat) using whatever weapons were at hand, and using whatever force was necessary. If I had to kill the attacker, I would--without any hesitation or a moment's future regret.

You do NOT attack someone else's family member; you always should defend yourself and your family members if attacked.
Really? So you would spend the rest of your life, or a significant amount of time behind bars (and all the fun that entails), away from your REAL family members, leaving your loved ones behind, lose everything, and ruin your life over a dog? The dog couldn’t even visit you at prison and chances are it would end up at the pound anyway. The gene pool needs chlorine!
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:40 PM
 
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Absolutely! My dogs are my children, if someone harms or mistreats them, my mother instinct will kick in.
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Something really scary happened to me today. Someone threaten to hit my dog with a rock. He could no find one so he took a huge heavy stick. He didn't get to hit her (we ran) but I called the police and gave a description anyway. If a person actually hits your dog on purpose and causes your dog an injury, what would you do???
I would attack such a person in a heartbeat, provided I was in a position to not end up getting both myself and my dog killed in the process. Otherwise, I would do exactly what you did.
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:41 AM
 
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I would attack such a person in a heartbeat, provided I was in a position to not end up getting both myself and my dog killed in the process. Otherwise, I would do exactly what you did.
Why? The OP's dog was off leash in a public area and she lost control of it. Lose control of your dog; lose control of the outcome. I've clubbed a dog HARD upside its head with a large stick and while the owner, a male, made some threats, I think he knew he better not attempt to come near me given what I'd just done to his dog. Luckily, someone else came upon him and told him to move on or he was calling the police. He had a bloodsport dog, off leash where leashes are required, and he allowed it to run up to me despite my yelling at him to call his dog back - instead of using the very short opportunity to do so, he instead used the precious seconds to yell out "he's friendly". I didn't wait to find out with that dog. Just a few weeks ago there was a viral video going around where the owners of this certain breed of dog were mad because they let it run free on a beach and it ran up to an older woman and her dog and the woman picked up a large stick and attempted to knock the hell out of it. She didn't make contact, only barely missing it, but she sent it packing! Good for her!

If your dog is harmed because you can't control it, that is on YOU. Don't blame others for your failure. If you don't want your dog hurt, keep it on a leash or make sure you have 100% control of it and keep it away from other people and their dogs unless they tell you they are fine with your dog approaching. Many people don't like dogs. Many people are afraid of dogs. It isn't a stranger's obligation to do an on the fly temperament assessment of your dog. It isn't on strangers to read your dog's body language and interpret its intent. While I would not hurt normal dogs that run up to me (I will give the owners an earful), there are some dogs that I will not allow to approach me or my dog and I don't care how much the owner is yelling how friendly they are. I will hit them with something, kick them hard, mace them, or do anything else necessary to get them away from me and my dog. And more than once, the police have backed me up and made it clear that I have a right to defend myself from dogs of which I feel threatened.
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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Yikes! Dog parks and off leash areas sound more dangerous than walking into a dive bar on a Saturday night! LOL
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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Really? So you would spend the rest of your life, or a significant amount of time behind bars (and all the fun that entails), away from your REAL family members, leaving your loved ones behind, lose everything, and ruin your life over a dog? The dog couldn’t even visit you at prison and chances are it would end up at the pound anyway. The gene pool needs chlorine!
I don't think you get to say who someone else's real family members are. Many people think of their animals as family members and loved ones.
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Why? The OP's dog was off leash in a public area and she lost control of it.
The OP didn't mention this in his/her initial post. I didn't read through the entire 125 posts preceding mine before I responded and the OP is likely not even around any more.
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