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Old 08-13-2010, 02:27 AM
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You guys do realize that we in the medical community have to fix things that people went overseas to get for cheaper? You know,as in "you get what you pay for".
I have seen plenty of people that went to the Dominican Republic or Thailand and got surgey only to come back with deadly infections be cause the doctors didn't use sterile technique or some other things.

That's why doctors are strongly against it. American doctors are the best educated.
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:24 AM
 
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You guys do realize that we in the medical community have to fix things that people went overseas to get for cheaper? You know,as in "you get what you pay for".
I have seen plenty of people that went to the Dominican Republic or Thailand and got surgey only to come back with deadly infections be cause the doctors didn't use sterile technique or some other things.

That's why doctors are strongly against it. American doctors are the best educated.
For every 1 person who comes back with problems worse than when they left the country, there are 9 others who got the same or better service for a lot less money, even with travel and accommodations costs.

The problem with American medicine is that we're not getting what we pay for!!! We spend a lot more money on health care than any other country, yet we are far from the world's healthiest people. We can't put all of that on the US medical industry, because a lack of healthy lifestyles is part of the problem, but a good part of it is US medicine's fault. And by the way, I wonder why US medicine doesn't emphasize behavioral intervention in the first place....hmmmm.
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:32 AM
 
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You guys do realize that we in the medical community have to fix things that people went overseas to get for cheaper?
Do you guys -- in the medical industry, as it were -- realize your "customer" -- US, as it were -- is so disgusted with you, we will now travel half-way around the world to avoid dealing with you?

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You know,as in "you get what you pay for".
Really? Amusing concept. Speaking of paying for and getting -- is this why the AMA, Pharmco and the Insurance Racket bribes Congress to :"get what they pay for?"

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I have seen plenty of people that went to the Dominican Republic or Thailand and got surgey only to come back with deadly infections be cause the doctors didn't use sterile technique or some other things.
And we have seen plenty of people who are gouged and cheated by your industry to the point of dying and being harmed by delays, refusal of treatment, and left bankrupt by the general self-concern and greed your industry has come to represent to US.

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That's why doctors are strongly against it. American doctors are the best educated.
How Noble.
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Old 08-13-2010, 11:00 AM
 
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Any non-emergency related illness/surgery could be treated overseas. In USA you will just get check ups, screenings and emergency care.
Okay, say I've got this sore on my arm that is leaking fluid and doesn't seem to be getting better. How do you diagnose and treat it from overseas? Shall I peform a self-biopsy and send it in the mail?

Say I've got a sore throat that hurts a lot when I swallow. How do you diagnose and treat from overseas? Shall I have my wife check my ears with a scope, shine a flashlight down my throat, and swab a culture with a q-tip to send overseas?

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If you could save thousands of dollars by going overseas you would definitely do it. If anything, it should put pressure on US hospitals to make sure their services are cost competitive with the rest of the world.
Not true. Some people would, others who have never been overseas might not. Words like "India" can be pretty scary to a lot of people, so don't assume saving money is going to make someone already scared about a medical procedure jump at the chance to fly there.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:16 PM
 
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You guys do realize that we in the medical community have to fix things that people went overseas to get for cheaper? You know,as in "you get what you pay for".
I have seen plenty of people that went to the Dominican Republic or Thailand and got surgey only to come back with deadly infections be cause the doctors didn't use sterile technique or some other things.

That's why doctors are strongly against it. American doctors are the best educated.
You don't have to go to third world countries. You can go to developed countries where the standard of care is just as good as in the US. Certainly you will not save as much but the cost differential remains significant.

Obviously, some types of health care lend themselves to "medical tourism" more than others. Neither is it new. When I lived in Switzerland some 12 years ago, I would routinely cross the border into France to go to the dentist. The cost saving over Swiss dentists was around 50% and the quality of treatment was fine.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:26 PM
 
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Which is probably why the AMA, Pharmco, and the Medical Insurance Racket will probably pay (and write the law) for Congress to outlaw Medical Tourism soon.

It will become "very important" -- what with it being (yet another) Terrorist Threat or some such nonsense.
How do you prove it? Every returning US citizen has to have a medical
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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That's why doctors are strongly against it. American doctors are the best educated.
That'd be a more compelling argument if so many Americans didn't die anyway from preventable infections or medication errors in American hospitals. You take your chances either way. It's not like staying in the US is some kind of golden seal of assurance that you won't be given MRSA or C. Difficile or the wrong IV line...

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Okay, say I've got this sore on my arm that is leaking fluid and doesn't seem to be getting better.
Well, you'd go to a doctor. But that sort of general checkup stuff is not where most hospitals make their money. Many of them rely on high-price semi-elective or elective surgical procedures (orthopedic procedures are a big one) to bring in the cash.

That is precisely the type of overpriced procedure that can easily be done overseas, for less money, and in far nicer surroundings than in the US.
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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How do you prove it? Every returning US citizen has to have a medical


Returning citizen has to have a medical. That is not true......
I have families that I work with that travel all over the world
as does my boss. They come and go as they please. There are
no restrictions. Only recommendations as to vaccines they
"should" get before traveling.
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:43 PM
 
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Returning citizen has to have a medical. That is not true......
I have families that I work with that travel all over the world
as does my boss. They come and go as they please. There are
no restrictions. Only recommendations as to vaccines they
"should" get before traveling.
Oh dear ...... go back and reread my post and the context it was made in.

I did not say every returning citizen has to have a medical. I made a rhetorical answer to a rhetorical question. The was a clue
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:50 PM
 
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What about liability? Can you sue a doc abroad for gross negligence? I would also be careful of universal precautions/sterilization techniques in other countries. I don't think outsourcing medicine is that easy, and there are many issues beyond seeking care and paying for it. There's also a major shortage of primary docs and I just had to call 5 different family docs' offices who weren't accepting new patients. Finally, I got an appointment for 2 months from now... I don't think docs are crying for more patients. Insurance companies may complain tho.
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