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Instead of raising the minimum wage, more good could be done if kids were required to stay in school. It's foolish to let kids drop out of school while they are still minors. Without a basic education, they will have little chance of getting a good job. For all of those who complain about a government-mandated minimum wage: make your own job.
Besides, raising the minimum wage will only spur wage inflation for everyone, leading to overall inflation. The benefits of widespread wage increases are only temporary, since the cost of living will likely increase by an equal or greater amount.
I agree these kids need to stay in school, but at the same time there are many skilled people especially in the IT field who are being offered $10-14hr for work that they should be getting paid way more for in regards to the skills they have. There are millions still out of work and employers know that, so they pay very low and tell you that you can leave if you dont like it because they know they can replace you in 1 day.
Cell phone and internet are not basic necessities.
I beg to differ in a digital age.
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Car payment and gas are also not necessities; lots of people live in towns with decent public transportation.
Lots of people live in towns with no public transportation still.
IMO: A lot of people don't really understand how little they're being paid due to failing to take into account what inflation has done to their buying power.
I agree these kids need to stay in school, but at the same time there are many skilled people especially in the IT field who are being offered $10-14hr for work that they should be getting paid way more for in regards to the skills they have. There are millions still out of work and employers know that, so they pay very low and tell you that you can leave if you don't like it because they know they can replace you in 1 day.
The business owner does not pay you for your skills. He has a job that he feels is worth X amount of dollars. People apply for this job and take it with the understanding of the pay. It has nothing to do with what you feel you are worth. If you feel you are worth X amount then you need to find someone with a job for that amount.
And as they mature to establish responsible sexual habits.
Give their own kid a real chance in life by not creating too much other competition for him.
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but at the same time there are many skilled people who are being offered $10-14hr
for work that they should be getting paid way more for in regards to the skills they have.
Because that work USED to pay more?
How has the raw numbers of capable people available to do X changed over the years?
Similar applies to every job classification.
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There are millions still out of work...
There are millions more people available than jobs that actually need doing.
This is a fundamental and structural problem at the societal level.
It requires serious attention and effort but it is NOT a business management issue.
In 1971 I worked after school at a day care center for minimum wage - $2.35 a hour. Gas was 35 cents a gallon and my parents' 3 BR 2 BA home in the DC suburbs sold a couple years later for $40,000. The price of gas and houses in that neighborhood have gone up about 10 and 9 times, respectively. You do the math. The minimum wage hasn't even come close to keeping up with inflation - nor have most jobs, for that matter, compared to what they paid 40 years ago.
In 1971 minimum wage - $2.35 a hour.
Gas was 35 cents a gallon...
3 BR 2 BA home ... $40,000.
The price of gas and houses in that neighborhood have gone up about 10 and 9 times...
Yes they have. But why have gas and RE prices gone up (let alone by so much)?
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You do the math.
I have.
As regards employment then vs now...
How many people as a % of the (200M) whole wanted/needed to work in 1971?
How many people as a % of the (315M) whole want/need to work in 2014?
As a percentage of today's (315M) whole who need/want a job...
How many are qualified for more than a low/no skilled (MW) job?
And how many fewer of those low/no skilled jobs do we have today?
I agree these kids need to stay in school, but at the same time there are many skilled people especially in the IT field who are being offered $10-14hr for work that they should be getting paid way more for in regards to the skills they have. There are millions still out of work and employers know that, so they pay very low and tell you that you can leave if you dont like it because they know they can replace you in 1 day.
This is one of the big problems with these types of discussions. What you think those skills SHOULD be worth is irrelevant. If one wishes to make more than $10-14/hour, one needs to have skills that the market is willing to pay more for.
Yes they have. But why have gas and RE prices gone up (let alone by so much)?
I have.
As regards employment then vs now...
How many people as a % of the (200M) whole wanted/needed to work in 1971?
How many people as a % of the (315M) whole want/need to work in 2014?
As a percentage of today's (315M) whole who need/want a job...
How many are qualified for more than a low/no skilled (MW) job?
And how many fewer of those low/no skilled jobs do we have today?
The business owner does not pay you for your skills. He has a job that he feels is worth X amount of dollars. People apply for this job and take it with the understanding of the pay. It has nothing to do with what you feel you are worth. If you feel you are worth X amount then you need to find someone with a job for that amount.
I did. My last job in IT paid crap and they knew it because they knew they could fill the positions over night with all the amount of people out of work, so they treated people like crap in return too. As soon as the economy turned a bit better in 2012, I quit and found something that paid me $10,000 more and for others that were making $6K less for me ended up getting $16K more. Good jobs know good talent when they see it.
Many people in the IT field are being screwed on their pay because the employer feels you should be lucky this job isnt going to India. I have seen network admin positions trying to pay $13hr!!! Why would would trust someone with your entire work's network for $27K a year an d wonder why you get viruses and why your companies personal data gets leaked.
This is one of the big problems with these types of discussions. What you think those skills SHOULD be worth is irrelevant. If one wishes to make more than $10-14/hour, one needs to have skills that the market is willing to pay more for.
I agree, but what I was saying is many people with no experience or skills want to be paid $15 from the jump to be a cashier and flip burgers. Im saying is, atleast show you can do the job ontime, with a good attitude, and a work etihic to move up the chain in the company to better positions before they ask for more pay.
Should a McDonald cashier get $15 hr??? HELL NO...and still turn around and mess up your order too.
If minimum wage goes to $11-15 hr, then everyone with degrees and skills need atleast $5 an hr raise as well.
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