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How will you get rid of the welfare cliff effect. Every assistance program has a cutoff, so there will be point where one dollar puts you into negative territory, because you have to pay for child care, etc. You have made a great case for eliminating welfare after a set amount of time. Get those folks earning more sooner.
Why on earth would you factor in work-related costs? Everyone has them (why on earth must you MW pushers continue to pretend that only the poor pay anything?). It's not a difficult issue at all. When you negotiate to take a job, you factor in the wage and any expenses that might result from that job (commute, wardrobe, child care) and either take the job or look elsewhere.
Nobody is saying anything about being against a minimum wage. The argument is whether is should be nationwide (stupid) and $15 an hour (even more stupid).
Simple - have the benefits phase out gradually with income instead of abruptly dropping from full to zero.
And allow work-related expenses (within reason) to be deducted from income used to determine benefits.
The combination of these things would result in incentives to work more/harder, without total abolition of public assistance and the resulting crime and social problems.
If minimum wage were that high, there would be no such thing as entry level jobs and thus no way for young adults to launch their career.
We'd have to go back to bartering.
I said for satisfying my quality of life (personal level). These incomes are what I wish to earn down the line after all the educational experience I've been through. Minimum livable wage for the general person must remain at around $ 15/hr. Anything lower is just abysmal for a developed nation.
I said for satisfying my quality of life (personal level). These incomes are what I wish to earn down the line after all the educational experience I've been through. Minimum livable wage for the general person must remain at around $ 15/hr. Anything lower is just abysmal for a developed nation.
You're assuming that raising it to $15 per hour would allow those workers to earn more, as opposed to getting laid off because their employer can't afford them.
I'm not convinced that that assumption is reasonable.
No one really expects a $15.00 minimum wage to happen. It's a canard that gets thrown out by the right wingers again and again to dumb down the whole discussion. Most people find a $10.00/hr minimum wage to be realistic and reasonable. Even Subway's Fred Deluca has come out in favor of raising the minimum wage to around that...I'm pretty sure he knows about running a business and job creation more than most on this forum.
No one really expects a $15.00 minimum wage to happen. It's a canard that gets thrown out by the right wingers again and again to dumb down the whole discussion.
$15 an hour is what they want, it's not something made up from the right, you are being out right dishonest.
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Most people find a $10.00/hr minimum wage to be realistic and reasonable. Even Subway's Fred Deluca has come out in favor of raising the minimum wage to around that...I'm pretty sure he knows about running a business and job creation more than most on this forum.
Then how about he regulate all of his Subway independent business owners to pay their employees that then? Just like how some "rich" people wish the tax rates were higher, but yet, they still have their CPA utilize every loophole in the book to reduce their tax rates as low as possible. It's disingenuous as hell.
You want a raise? Increase your skills, education and productivity. You have no skills, no high school education and 4 kids from 4 different loser men? Well, you made your bed......
That there is a lot of CONJECTURE floating around about what the MW is supposed to accomplish ...
Respectfully, I disagree.
The Minimum Wage (MW) very effectively accomplishes precisely what it is supposed to accomplish: campaign contributions to lawmakers who generate discussions about MW policy.
Bring up a discussion of MW policy & law, and money flows into the campaign coffers of lawmakers on both sides of the issue. That is precisely why they bring up the discussion in the first place.
"Hmmm, my re-election campaign war chest is running low," lawmakers & candidates think to themselves, "What can I do to generate more campaign contributions? I know; I'll start talking about the MW so that labor unions and businesses will fill the mail with entreaties to either raise it or leave it alone, together with their campaign contribution."
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