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Old 03-20-2014, 11:35 PM
 
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The economy today is often called the knowledge economy. Yet so many americans who are educated with knowledge cannot find decent paying jobs.

Many types of knowledge are not immediately useful. Instead, we are in a skills economy. These aren't necessarily low levels skills. They are skills of various levels. If you have marketable skills, your chances of employment are greatly increased.

The post 1960s culture gives americans too much complacency and hurts the work ethic. Today many americans don't even know how things work. They wake up sometimes in their 30s. Many simply look down on skills. They think highly of themselves, see many jobs as beneath them. It often amazes me how much higher people think they are than they actually are.

The global economy is a good wake up call. The skills economy demands work ethic, time devotion, and competition mindset. It's time to recognize that.
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Old 03-21-2014, 05:48 AM
 
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Knowledge economy or skills economy?
Skills ARE knowledge

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...so many Americans who are educated with knowledge cannot find decent paying jobs.
Don't confuse "education" with EITHER job/trade skills or useful work knowledge

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Old 03-21-2014, 06:37 AM
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Everyone can't be a rocket scientist, someone has to be the janitor.
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Old 03-21-2014, 06:57 AM
 
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Looks like a blue collar vs white collar question in disguise.... wait.. what's the question?

I think it is largely irrelevant these days. Skill and knowledge are among the same. The key is to have a something that is marketable.
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Old 03-21-2014, 09:05 AM
 
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Skill and knowledge are not the same thing. I can know a ton, for example, about living in the wild; I could read every book and study plants and navigation. That doesn't mean I have the skills to accomplish survival innately. That's actually pretty obvious.

I agree with the OP. The amount of graduates who are educated but don't have a marketable skill set is growing. Furthermore, we can't get away with being unskilled before hire anymore. 50 years ago you were much more likely to be trained on the job and getting a degree gave you an almost indefinate ability to find high level work. Now everyone is getting degrees and no one has relevant skills. I have two degrees in liberal arts but would not have been able to secure a job without several marketable skills which were not taught in college..
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Old 03-21-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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The economy today is often called the knowledge economy. Yet so many americans who are educated with knowledge cannot find decent paying jobs.

Many types of knowledge are not immediately useful. Instead, we are in a skills economy. These aren't necessarily low levels skills. They are skills of various levels. If you have marketable skills, your chances of employment are greatly increased.

The post 1960s culture gives americans too much complacency and hurts the work ethic. Today many americans don't even know how things work. They wake up sometimes in their 30s. Many simply look down on skills. They think highly of themselves, see many jobs as beneath them. It often amazes me how much higher people think they are than they actually are.

The global economy is a good wake up call. The skills economy demands work ethic, time devotion, and competition mindset. It's time to recognize that.
I have no freaking idea what you bumbling about, but it's all wrong.

There are levels of economies, and they advance...

Zero Level - Agriculture
1st Level - Resources
2nd Level - Heaving Industry
3rd Level - Light Industry
4th Level - Technology --- You Are Here more correctly, you are stuck here, thanks to Liberals
5th Level - Research & Development

Emerging-States are moving from Zero Level to 1st Level.

Developing-States are moving through phases of the 1st Level or 2nd Level.

If you want to lose your Light Industry and see even higher unemployment, then please, by all means, continue doing the same stupid things you've been doing for the past 50 years, 'cause, you know, it's working so well for everyone.

Economically...

Mircea
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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it's a service economy, which is neither a knowledge economy nor a skills economy. now put your damn apron back on, those fries ain't gonna cook themselves.
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Old 03-21-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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it's a service economy, which is neither a knowledge economy nor a skills economy. now put your damn apron back on, those fries ain't gonna cook themselves.
On the surface it is but if you can gain skills it opens doors. The issue is gaining the skills is easy but the experience is hard unless you are in the industry. If not, get that apron on...
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Old 03-21-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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On the surface it is but if you can gain skills it opens doors. The issue is gaining the skills is easy but the experience is hard unless you are in the industry. If not, get that apron on...
Are you sure that gaining skills is easy? A lot of students get advanced degrees Without substantially adding new skills. Much of education today focuses on cultural issues. Students don't expand their skill sets. Most students need to at least be brought into a skill realm before self learning. Most aren't motivated enough. Many have a hard time finding guidance on what they should learn. Many Americans assume that the skills are for foreigners to learn. Skills driven majors usually have much more international students than non skills driven majors.

Those jobs for people who learned culture, history, and social awareness are going to be fewer and more competitive.
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Old 03-21-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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Sometimes, college students can acquire skills and still not find good jobs. This is the communications/media field in a nutshell. Quality audio and video production and editing are legitimate skills with rather scarce job opportunities these days. I think it's quite condescending to look down upon everybody with non-STEM degrees. They're not all without skills.
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