Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Happy Mother`s Day to all Moms!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: What household income strikes you as the beginnings of "wealthy"?
$80,000-$100,000 18 6.08%
$100,001-$150,000 29 9.80%
$150,001-$225,000 31 10.47%
$225,001-$350,000 52 17.57%
$350,001-$500,000 60 20.27%
$500,000-$999,999 50 16.89%
$1,000,000 > 56 18.92%
Voters: 296. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-24-2015, 11:43 AM
 
1,820 posts, read 1,654,781 times
Reputation: 1091

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by harhar View Post
I chose 225k-350k+. At that level, my wife and I could afford a $1,300,000+ home. Max out our retirements, have two new cars, either leased or bought. And take awesome trips 2 times a year. That amount of money would give us the freedom to do literally whatever we wanted.
Nota bene: These are the types of people who promptly go bust when they win the lottery.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-24-2015, 11:47 AM
 
26,191 posts, read 21,583,182 times
Reputation: 22772
Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Barbara View Post
Google is your friend. Give him a call. But keep in mind that the biased nature of the sensationalized document set he has to work with will need to be corrected for. Filters for source-reliability will need to be developed lest you become a victim of the very disease you are trying to investigate.


So what you are saying is that you have nothing credible to back up your assertions? That's kind if what I figured and your google response is simply a cop out instead of owning what you alluded to is simply something you believe but couldn't prove
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:38 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
27,564 posts, read 28,659,961 times
Reputation: 25154
Quote:
Originally Posted by mizzourah2006 View Post
225-350k you could afford a 1.3 million + home? That's 4-6x your annual income.

I don't even think I would feel comfortable going over 2.5x my annual income for a home.
Someone making 225-350K likely has a substantial amount of money saved for a downpayment. Also, probably already owns a home with equity in it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:52 PM
 
5,342 posts, read 6,167,028 times
Reputation: 4719
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
Someone making 225-350K likely has a substantial amount of money saved for a downpayment. Also, probably already owns a home with equity in it.
That was not what the person said. You could say the same thing for a lot of people. Would you say it is a good idea for a couple making 125-150k to buy a 6-700k home? After all, they could have a substantial amount of money saved for a downpayment and probably already own a home with equity in it.

A couple making 225k maxing out their 401ks and living in a state with an income tax would likely have a take home pay of 5k bi-weekly. Even if they put down 300k on a 1.3 million dollar home they would be looking at a mortgage payment of ~4.8k/month (assuming 30 year fixed rate and 4% interest). That doesn't include property taxes and insurance. Would you want to pay ~50% of your take home for a mortgage?

I personally would never pay more than 2-2.5x our yearly gross income for a home. Nothing better than being house poor. If you think mortgage + property taxes + insurance of 40-60% of your take home is reasonable then go for it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:55 PM
 
1,820 posts, read 1,654,781 times
Reputation: 1091
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowexpectations View Post
So what you are saying is that you have nothing credible to back up your assertions?
What I'm saying is that no-finger-lifted requests for special spoon-feedings of relevant information will be denied. I do not owe you the education that you have failed to provide for yourself. Your silly SWS theory is puerile economic poppycock. There is no real world basis for it. It is a creature of stupid anecotal citations. It was a significant mistake for you to have brought such a flimsy thing to the table.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-24-2015, 01:56 PM
 
26,191 posts, read 21,583,182 times
Reputation: 22772
Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Barbara View Post
What I'm saying is that no-finger-lifted requests for special spoon-feedings of relevant information will be denied. I do not owe you the education you have failed to provide for yourself.

Or simply put you don't have anything to support what you pulled out of your butt

I work in a field that deals with this all the time and you couldn't be further from reality with your made up stats
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-24-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Sunrise
10,864 posts, read 16,992,760 times
Reputation: 9084
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowexpectations View Post
Or simply put you don't have anything to support what you pulled out of your butt

I work in a field that deals with this all the time and you couldn't be further from reality with your made up stats
This is, ad oculos, where obfuscation supplants empirical data. Lacking sycophants, turn to a thesaurus.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-24-2015, 02:28 PM
 
2,936 posts, read 2,334,617 times
Reputation: 6690
Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Barbara View Post
What I'm saying is that no-finger-lifted requests for special spoon-feedings of relevant information will be denied. I do not owe you the education that you have failed to provide for yourself. Your silly SWS theory is puerile economic poppycock. There is no real world basis for it. It is a creature of stupid anecotal citations. It was a significant mistake for you to have brought such a flimsy thing to the table.
It's typical when one brings an argument into a debate for that person to back that argument up with facts and data. You don't present a reason and expect others to do your research.

If you had already researched your position you would have the facts readily available and it would be no trouble to supply them.

Most debaters do that voluntarily because it strengthens their argument.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-24-2015, 02:29 PM
bg7
 
7,694 posts, read 10,560,225 times
Reputation: 15300
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
Someone making 225-350K likely has a substantial amount of money saved for a downpayment. Also, probably already owns a home with equity in it.
I was earning at the top part of that when I first bought. I only had 10% down, I certainly didn't have a second home.

My rent in NYC was astronomical, but still lower than many of my contemporaries. I couldn't face it any more, I purchased.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-24-2015, 02:31 PM
bg7
 
7,694 posts, read 10,560,225 times
Reputation: 15300
Quote:
Originally Posted by mizzourah2006 View Post
That was not what the person said. You could say the same thing for a lot of people. Would you say it is a good idea for a couple making 125-150k to buy a 6-700k home? After all, they could have a substantial amount of money saved for a downpayment and probably already own a home with equity in it.

A couple making 225k maxing out their 401ks and living in a state with an income tax would likely have a take home pay of 5k bi-weekly. Even if they put down 300k on a 1.3 million dollar home they would be looking at a mortgage payment of ~4.8k/month (assuming 30 year fixed rate and 4% interest). That doesn't include property taxes and insurance. Would you want to pay ~50% of your take home for a mortgage?

I personally would never pay more than 2-2.5x our yearly gross income for a home. Nothing better than being house poor. If you think mortgage + property taxes + insurance of 40-60% of your take home is reasonable then go for it.

yes, I agree! I love my vacations, travelling in general and too many other things to be house poor. That house would be a prison to me. I was at about 2.1x when I bought.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top