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Old 05-19-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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The "business subsidy" comes in the form of food stamps to the employee who is paid the minimum wage. They don't have to pay a "living wage" because the government is chipping in.
Paying a "living wage" is not a requirement anywhere in the US, so just stop with that nonsense.

As far as subsidizing WalMart's cost of labor, it's not happening. And here's why:

Walmart currently pays its employees at one of three levels:

1) A market determined wage/salary.
2) The Federal minimum wage.
3) A state minimum wage, if it is in excess of the Federal minimum wage.

100% of Walmart employees are paid in one of the three manners described above. No exceptions. None. In order for Walmart to be receiving a taxpayer provided subsidy of their labor costs, they would have to have figured out how to NOT pay employees in one of the three manners described above, and actually pay them less, while simultaneously figuring out how to compel the government to pay to Walmart the shortfall. This is not happening, not even in a single instance.

QED

Some Walmart employees are able to receive government assistance, not because Walmart is paying them less than a market wage, or a minimum wage (because that's CLEARLY NOT happening), but because society has determined that an individual needs more than what some of these employees are able to command in the marketplace. But understand that in these instances, the employees are having their lifestyle subsidized, Walmart isn't having it's labor cost subsidized. In fact, minimum wage results in Walmart paying higher wages than they would be paying in the absence of a minimum wage.

Only someone possessing no knowledge of economics could possibly believe that Walmart is receiving a government provided wage subsidy.
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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Trump lowered taxes on the rich. the tax savings to the others is eaten up by gas prices going up and won't be seen and is mostly meaningless if it's a the price of a lunch a week.


How does lowering taxes help the little old lady living on social security of $800 a month? She's lucky if she can keep a roof over her head and food on her table and pay for tylenol and toilet paper.
Tax cuts benefit those that are actually paying the taxes. In a just world, the largest portion of a tax cut would go to those that are paying the largest portion of taxes.

I'm OK with that.
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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Tax cuts benefit those that are actually paying the taxes. In a just world, the largest portion of a tax cut would go to those that are paying the largest portion of taxes.

I'm OK with that.
In a just world the ones with the most income pay the highest %.
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Old 05-19-2018, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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In a just world the ones with the most income pay the highest %.
Which is a progressive income tax, and our nation has a progressive income tax.

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Old 05-19-2018, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Income economic inequality in the United States - What can be done to close the gap?
Burger flippers could actually log onto their computers to purse a secondary education online instead of using it to look up celebrity social media accounts. The "gap closer" has been here fore decades now, it's called the internet. Whether you use it to take classes on computer science or play PC games all day, is your choice.

The neurosurgeon contributes more to the economy and society than the burger flipper and will be compensated appropriately. If you don't have the IQ to be anything beyond a burger flipper then that's your parent's fault, not societys
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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Which is a progressive income tax, and our nation has a progressive income tax.

Yes, but then they can't write off all or most of their taxes or hide their money in offshore accounts or do their main business here and claim to be a citizen of a tax haven.
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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Don't buy things. Any time you buy a smartphone/big screen tv/etc you are making a rich person richer.
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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The neurosurgeon contributes more to the economy and society than the burger flipper and will be compensated appropriately. If you don't have the IQ to be anything beyond a burger flipper then that's your parent's fault, not societys
And if you weren't given a million dollars in the 70s which was a lot of money then when a million made you a millionaire and have connections to a real estate empire that's not your fault either.
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:58 PM
 
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Don't buy things. Any time you buy a smartphone/big screen tv/etc you are making a rich person richer.
Buy things you can afford, don't buy the biggest newest most expensive TV, you can get a 50 inch closeout when the new models come out for about $300 and you can get a smart phone for $100 or less, some free with some plans.

Any time you buy anything even for $1 at Walmart you are making the richest family in the world richer. You have no choice but to buy things.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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And if you weren't given a million dollars in the 70s which was a lot of money then when a million made you a millionaire and have connections to a real estate empire that's not your fault either.
That doesn't make any sense.

Just because I had poor parents doesn't mean I need to envy and punish trust fund kids like Trump. Ever heard of hard work?
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