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Old 07-18-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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Now, the obvious answer would be, yes just stop working and spend all your savings if you have any but the question is about for the majority of people.

I heard this line of thinking from my friend and I don't know what you think about it. He said to me that it's probably hard for the average person to ever end up as a millionaire/billionaire/athlete/renonwed scientist seeing as there are so few of them that there are the exception rather than the rule. One has to put in effort unless born into it.

If that's the case, then could we not say that about being homeless on the streets? A very tiny percentage of the U.S. population or even population here where I live in Ireland is homeless. They may be visible but its a tiny amount.

Given that this is the case, could one then say it's hard to be homeless and the average person need not worry? That seems like faulty logic somehow.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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To me it would be unpleasant, but "hard" is a relative term. The homeless never have to make decisions, never have to take responsibility, never have to get up when they are hungover and go to work. Some one else earns their food and cooks it for them, Someone else earns money and hands it to them. They don't have to make any effort for anything.



The trade off is the danger of the streets with no secure shelter and exposure to weather.


I think for the average person, the homeless option is very unattractive. For some people, it is the easy way to live.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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A large percentage of the homeless in the USA have substance abuse problems. For them, their drugs and alcohol are more important than anything else in their lives, so they use all of their money on drugs and alcohol with nothing left over for food and shelter. Their choice isn't about hard or easy. Their choice is about the most efficient way to secure their drugs or alcohol.


A small percentage are mentally ill and incapable of holding a job. Their choice isn't about hard or easy. They just don't have any other option and they can't be hospitalized against their will, where the choice would be taken away from them..
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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I think for the average person, the homeless option is very unattractive. For some people, it is the easy way to live.
Drug addiction and mental illness isn’t an ‘easy way to live’.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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Drug addiction and mental illness isn’t an ‘easy way to live’.
The poster never stated that it was. Don’t put words in people’s mouths.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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The poster never stated that it was. Don’t put words in people’s mouths.
The thread title is, ‘is it easy to be homeless or not?’ The poster I quoted said it was the easy way to live for some people.

How is answering the question directly (with my opinion) putting words in anyone’s mouth?
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:24 AM
 
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The thread title is, ‘is it easy to be homeless or not?’ The poster I quoted said it was the easy way to live for some people.

How is answering the question directly (with my opinion) putting words in anyone’s mouth?
Okay, my apologies. I thought you were implying that the OP had stated that.
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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I think the OP meant: "Is it hard or easy to become homeless?"
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Drug addiction and mental illness isn’t an ‘easy way to live’.
You are not kidding. There but for the grace of God go I.
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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That anyone, even the econ Calvinists, could think that being homeless has an upside is just mind-boggling. Gosh, to be completely free of having to make decisions! (Which is wrong on the face of it, but ne'mind.)

And noting that a good percentage of homelessness traces to mental illness or drug addiction - the half that isn't due to that economic disaster that only happens to stupid, short-sighted people, you know - is not exactly off-topic.

Close this thread before the stupidity level rises any higher, Maw.
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