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Old 07-10-2019, 10:34 PM
 
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That is their way of telling us we are heading into recession? Rate cuts are coming so we can have MORE asset bubbles and take on MORE debt. No question the global economy is a mess. And MORE debt will make it more of a mess.

See how bizarre the world has become. Central Banks fear a meltdown so they are bankrupting us slowly. BITING THE BULLET is not in their vocabulary. We will all pay for this, if not us, then our children. Good Luck!!

 
Old 07-10-2019, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Houston
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That is their way of telling us we are heading into recession? Rate cuts are coming so we can have MORE asset bubbles and take on MORE debt. No question the global economy is a mess. And MORE debt will make it more of a mess.

See how bizarre the world has become. Central Banks fear a meltdown so they are bankrupting us slowly. BITING THE BULLET is not in their vocabulary. We will all pay for this, if not us, then our children. Good Luck!!
Yep, it defies all common logic. Low unemployment, low inflation = rate cut! Nothing makes sense anymore.
 
Old 07-11-2019, 02:33 AM
 
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projected gdp's are a mere 1.48% from ny fed and 1,40% from atlanta fed .

the gdp we clocked in at 2.30% is the weakest number in 9 expansions .. we have averaged 4.40

so there is concern here about things slowing to fast . for such low inflation they may have pushed rates to high . business's have also been doing very little capital spending because of all the turmoil .

don't forget investors already bid rates lower , the fed has not changed a thing . the fed funds rate futures are already at a level that reflect a 100% chance of a cut ..the fed cutting just confirms they are okay with where the worlds investors bid rates regardless. fear , greed and perception of the effects of all this turmoil is driving rates.

the inverted yield curve is what happens when the fed and investors are not on the same page and investors wrestle control from the fed so to speak .

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Old 07-11-2019, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Spain
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That is their way of telling us we are heading into recession? Rate cuts are coming so we can have MORE asset bubbles and take on MORE debt. No question the global economy is a mess. And MORE debt will make it more of a mess.
This is pretty funny.

1. You literally spent years generating threads about how the recession was a lie since based on zero interest rates and debt, if interest rates ever rose it the house of cards would come crashing down.

2. Fed then raised rates 9 times without the economy crashing as you predicted, and your regularly scheduled rants grew noticeably less frequent and vociferous.

3. Now you're back saying rate cuts are coming so that must mean we are heading into a recession (you know, the thing you previously claimed we never left) so now it's the rate cuts that are the harbinger of doom.

Rates rising? End of days! Rate cuts? End of days!
 
Old 07-11-2019, 03:36 AM
 
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you are letting facts get in the way of these good story lines ...... perhaps he should work for cnbc ...they can't get their headlines correct either .
 
Old 07-11-2019, 04:09 AM
 
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This is pretty funny.

1. You literally spent years generating threads about how the recession was a lie since based on zero interest rates and debt, if interest rates ever rose it the house of cards would come crashing down.

2. Fed then raised rates 9 times without the economy crashing as you predicted, and your regularly scheduled rants grew noticeably less frequent and vociferous.

3. Now you're back saying rate cuts are coming so that must mean we are heading into a recession (you know, the thing you previously claimed we never left) so now it's the rate cuts that are the harbinger of doom.

Rates rising? End of days! Rate cuts? End of days!
I was just happy it wasn’t written in alternating colors and bold!

We can not deny nature! Natuuuuure.
 
Old 07-11-2019, 05:17 AM
 
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That is their way of telling us we are heading into recession? Rate cuts are coming so we can have MORE asset bubbles and take on MORE debt. No question the global economy is a mess. And MORE debt will make it more of a mess.

See how bizarre the world has become. Central Banks fear a meltdown so they are bankrupting us slowly. BITING THE BULLET is not in their vocabulary. We will all pay for this, if not us, then our children. Good Luck!!
Telling us there us there's a coming recession?

Yes, IMO.

There is an inverted yield curve.

The "textbook definition" of a recession is 2 consecutive quarters with negative GDP growth.

I don't know if this will happen, but we're due for a downward cycle. Not gloom, just downward, from my point of view. Cycles. Could be shallow; could be short.
 
Old 07-11-2019, 06:47 AM
 
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Rate cut = stock market goes higher

Sounds good to me.
 
Old 07-11-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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Yes, there is a recession coming. I can guarantee that.


When? Well, you got me there. Could be next year, could be fifteen years.


But we can be assured that there will be a recession between now and when the sun burns out.
 
Old 07-11-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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Rate cut = stock market goes higher

Sounds good to me.
You better be nimble. History shows that market rallies based on rate cuts at the end of GDP expansion cycles are short lived.
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