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Old 11-08-2013, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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How do you know it is one in a thousand and not one in a hundred, or one in ten.

Explain your assumption?

And what do you mean by early? We can now give tablet computers to 3 year olds. The devices are getting under $100. The problem is what to load on them when they can read.

psik
Who is "we" and where are you getting the hundred bucks to "give" tablet computers to 3 year olds, and how will you prevent Mom's boyfriend from selling it for drug money? Solve those problems before the knock-down, drag-out fights over what to load on them.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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Who is "we" and where are you getting the hundred bucks to "give" tablet computers to 3 year olds, and how will you prevent Mom's boyfriend from selling it for drug money? Solve those problems before the knock-down, drag-out fights over what to load on them.
Your preoccupation with this hypothetical, theoretical "mom" and her up-to-no-good "boyfriend" is both troubling, ridiculous and hilarious.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Mount Laurel
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It's ALL about the parents. Whether it's reading or encouraging them to do well in school or making sure they don't get involved with gangs/drugs, etc.

It's ALL about the parents. Schools cannot make up for their lack of parenting.
I agree that parent bare the ultimate responsibilities but there should be external resources. Where should they spend most of their times when they are not at home?

Here is a story that relates to this slightly.

'Crack baby' study ends with unexpected but clear result - Philly.com
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:27 PM
 
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If the "impoverished" areas do have books, they just destroy them. When I was growing up, we had several libraries nearby which we used extensively. We never destroyed or defaced a book, it was always returned on time and in good condition. Now, the same area's libraries are in ruins. Books simply disappeared, not returned, the library itself has shut down, people stopped going do to crime, conditions, etc.

If the OP means to suggest the "disadvantaged" would be helped by supplying them with more books, well......many of those kids don't even know what a book is anymore, you're just wasting your money!
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I agree that parent bare the ultimate responsibilities but there should be external resources. Where should they spend most of their times when they are not at home?

Here is a story that relates to this slightly.

'Crack baby' study ends with unexpected but clear result - Philly.com
You can't fix that problem though. You can't mandate parenting skills.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I've been subbing at the same school for 3 years. I've watched over 300+ kids pass through 6th grade and in that time I only saw one single student that loved reading for the sake of reading. The rest had their simple short books for AR points which they rarely opened.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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And what do you mean by early?
From even before birth.

Simple conversation directed at and engaging with the child.
Exposing them to language... vocabulary, structure, etc.
Then there are colors and numbers and all the socialization.

Technology cannot make up for this loss.
It surely can't replace it.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Your preoccupation with this hypothetical, theoretical "mom" and her up-to-no-good "boyfriend" is both troubling, ridiculous and hilarious.
No offense was intended, and I'm sorry if you're "troubled" by my comments. This is an internet bulletin board, you know. LOL
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:07 PM
 
Location: midwest
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From even before birth.
ROFL

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Technology cannot make up for this loss.
It surely can't replace it.
Nobody knows what the technology can do. It hasn't been around long enough.

The advantage of a tablet computer is that it can give a child 100% of its attention whenever the child wants. 32 gig of on board storage is quite a bit not even counting Internet access. No matter how caring the parent or well to do they are, that is nearly impossible.

We will soon be able to do something similar to the book in Stephenson's Diamond Age.

psik
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Old 11-08-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Is your solution to bring it to their doorsteps and depositing it there?
Because that is their parents' job.
Libraries exist even in the city.
And every school I have ever been to has one there, too.

I agree, though. If it's not convenient it is not as easy and it is less likely to happen.
Same thing happens with a lot of people and exercise, healthy eating, etc.
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