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Old 12-21-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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I reckon that would make sense that was the presupposition.
Somehow though, I doubt it is actually the case.

 
Old 12-21-2014, 02:21 PM
 
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I would be amazed if a large number drop out because evolution is taught as fact, which it is.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 02:22 PM
 
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I am amazed how some teenage girls can still go to school in spite of their pregnancy, but yes, that can be a factor for some if not most teenage girls. Hopefully, they will have the support they need to study for their G.E.D.

Why would that amaze you?
 
Old 12-21-2014, 02:54 PM
 
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Have you any understanding of science? Evolution is both a fact and a theory, but a theory in science is NOT a guess or hypothesis, but a well-supported explanation for scientific observations. Theories don't ever turn into laws because laws are descriptions while theories are explanations. The fact of evolution is the changes that have been observed (genetic change over generations). The theory of evolution is that natural selection is the best explanation for the fact that change occurs.

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Honestly, humans don't evolve *ourselves.* That's a silly idea. We may actually be able to genetically modify ourselves, but that would not be evolution. Note that humans can selectively breed many animals and plants and already do that. That is an example of artificial selection, not evolution. In humans, this is called eugenics and is commonly frowned upon given the experiments that were used by the German third Reich.
Thank you. Citing the example of' teaching evolution as fact' as the cause of somebody dropping out of HS pretty much negates any chance of taking the OP seriously.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 07:56 PM
 
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Actually I'm one of those who thinks that the dropout rate is a non-issue. But of course, anything that you take time to measure and quantify eventually becomes a big deal for politicians. I know two people who technically dropped out of school. One had to work in the parental business and the other one was a bright kid stuck in a failing school full of thugs.

They both left to go to college, and have multiple advance degrees between them. Of course I'm sure there are people who drop out for other reasons and are not successful. IMO if you are not cut out for high school, and find something else to do ie a job or higher education or even your eventual life of crime then OK.

Keep the ones there who want to learn and are capable of learning what is taught. With fewer students, maybe the schools will do a better job. It seems to be the bluster about the "dropout rate" is a way to try to keep tax dollars based on enrollment.
Hello, Rapunzel. Interesting to see you here.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:28 PM
 
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In all the actual discussions I've heard with dropouts, including my own conversations working with kids, the most common reason is that they see high school as irrelevant to their current lives or what they see as their likely futures.

Thing is, they were pretty much right.

One big factor is that only about 30% of Americans ever get bachelor's degrees, yet most high schools only offer college prep curriculae. Many kids have already determined they don't want a job requiring college and many aren't ready for a college prep curriculum--so a high school offering the only a college prep curriculum appear to be a waste of their time.
 
Old 12-21-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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4. Logical choice...................... for SOME people 12 years of schooling, for one reason or another, just does not make sense and is a total waste of time!!!
 
Old 12-21-2014, 09:59 PM
 
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I'm thinking pregnancy should be in the Top 3.
Ahh, that lifetime movie where a group of women raise funds to pay for a daycare program so that teenage mothers can finish high school. One woman suggest just giving them contraceptives, whereas the women say they can't do this since it encourages the girls to have sex
 
Old 12-22-2014, 02:13 AM
 
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I think the real reason is "lack of hope" and "becoming inured."

But these things are difficult to measure and the 3 stated points probably lead to the above mindset.
 
Old 12-22-2014, 06:28 AM
 
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I think the real reason is "lack of hope" and "becoming inured."
Those are social work matters; not educational.
The underlying academic inadequacy...

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But these things are difficult to measure and the 3 stated points probably lead to the above mindset.
I'd suggest that the tree reasons cited will exacerbate or maybe trigger
but they, like your social work matters, are symptoms. Not causes.
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