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Old 12-03-2021, 09:17 PM
 
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Well, the Morals of Chess are more important than playing the game as mandatory teaching IMO, but using the game as a tool to impart these truths would be a great help for many young minds.


The Morals Of Chess


1. Foresight: Look into the future and consider the consequences. Think about the real advantages to yourself, then wonder about the impact on others and how that might then reflect back on your life. Imagine how you might righteously defend your position.

2. Circumspection: Examine the bigger picture, the dangers, the possibilities, the probabilities. Be more brave about options that scare you.

3. Caution: Don’t make moves in haste or passion. Keep to the rules and guidelines of etiquette, law, and Commandments. And understand that once you’ve made your move, you set in play a series of events over which you may not have recourse, from which you might suffer in your soul, as well as your life.






I wouldn't be surprised though in today's warped educational environment if some groups would have a problem with it. Many leaders do not want critical thinking people seeing 'the bigger picture' etc. but their kids likely go to private schools which teach morals of chess. But, hey, we got lotteries as incentives for behavior!

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Old 12-04-2021, 06:42 AM
 
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One of my grandkids went to a private Christian school where they incorporated some very basic finance in their math class. The kids ran a store, they had to learn how to price 'products' at a point where they would earn a profit, i.e. a pencil cost them 5 cents so they had to sell it for more than that, and they learned how to make change. It was really cool, I'm not sure why they don't offer some version of that in all elementary schools.
Show them early that there is a point to it. Word problems were always supposed to do that, but those were also too often too abstract.
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Old 12-04-2021, 07:12 AM
 
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Show them early that there is a point to it. Word problems were always supposed to do that, but those were also too often too abstract.
I would add they are also often poorly written and overly contrived. The hardest part of a word problem is figuring out what they are saying. After that the math was often easy.
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Old 12-04-2021, 08:07 AM
 
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Well, the Morals of Chess are more important than playing the game as mandatory teaching IMO, but using the game as a tool to impart these truths would be a great help for many young minds.


The Morals Of Chess


1. Foresight: Look into the future and consider the consequences. Think about the real advantages to yourself, then wonder about the impact on others and how that might then reflect back on your life. Imagine how you might righteously defend your position.

2. Circumspection: Examine the bigger picture, the dangers, the possibilities, the probabilities. Be more brave about options that scare you.

3. Caution: Don’t make moves in haste or passion. Keep to the rules and guidelines of etiquette, law, and Commandments. And understand that once you’ve made your move, you set in play a series of events over which you may not have recourse, from which you might suffer in your soul, as well as your life.
Yesterday (3 DEC 2021):
Game 6 of the world chess championship. All of these morals show up. Add (4) Perseverance and (5) Respect for your adversary. This is the longest game on record (over 8 hours and over 130 moves). The game has already been recognized as one of the most important games ever played. Ever!

agadmator's Chess Channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8XpSCL2f_Y
(Video is around 45 minutes and worth every minute of watching.)
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Old 12-04-2021, 12:05 PM
 
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https://en.chessbase.com/post/why-ch...schools-170413


Now that the World Championship match is being played I thought I would start a chess thread. In my high school they discouraged chess. It eve got banned after I graduated.


You pretty much have to be a grandmaster to have any chance at making a "living" doing chess, so I don't see what would make chess more worthy of being "taught" than any other game.
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Old 12-04-2021, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I'd rather see a entry level finance class.



I very much agree. I also think - instead of chess - that it would be hugely beneficial to have at least one module per year in middle school math classes covering logic.
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Old 12-04-2021, 10:03 PM
 
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My nickname and the U.S.S.R. would probably both have the same opinion on this topic, lol.
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Old 12-04-2021, 11:01 PM
 
Location: The American Southwest
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I think it should be encouraged as an interesting game and a great thinking exercise. Mandatory? No. Started playing chess over 50 years ago, but it took me until recently to finally agree to learn Mahjong....that should be in the same thinking game catagory too.
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Old 12-05-2021, 11:08 PM
 
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Chess itself is pretty useless, but there are a lot of ancillary benefits for children learning chess so I support it.
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Old 12-06-2021, 05:11 AM
 
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Chess itself is pretty useless, but there are a lot of ancillary benefits for children learning chess so I support it.
The same thing is true for oodles of other activities. This is often brought up by those who want to waste limited class time for their pet this or that (ex: cursive writing).

What is unique that isn't learned in math, or grammar, or science, or organized sports? Nothing. It's just a game with a lot of social prestige and a whiff of genius (ex: Bobby Fischer) that makes people swoon over it.

There's nothing wrong with chess club. There's a whole lot wrong with shoehorning chess into a curriculum on the faulty notion that it somehow offers something not readily available elsewhere.
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