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Using the behavior of one teacher in one classroom, or even one group of students in one classroom, as the basis for an attack on an entire state is totally inappropriate. It is painting with far too broad a brush.
Inappropriate things take place in classrooms, too many of them, all over the country.
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I've seen some really strange things happen in that state as far as education, that's why I said that. It just adds to the list of strange things i've seen happen. Never hear about anything like that in the north.
I've seen some really strange things happen in that state as far as education, that's why I said that. It just adds to the list of strange things i've seen happen. Never hear about anything like that in the north.
All that sun and humidity must be frying their brains?
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All that sun and humidity must be frying their brains?
That's funny, that's what my mom says about the people down there. Of course not all people have backwards views towards things. But, my mom works in the schools and cannot believe some of the strange things the teachers do/say down there, compared to where she used to work in NY.
For example, the teachers she's encountered down there don't know basic geography that most people would be expected to know.
Sorry, but it's getting more difficult by the year to feel sorry for teachers. Teachers are making more and more money and spending less and less time with students. Elementary age children spend less time with any one teacher than high school kids do. In addition, there are more and more 'aides' in elementary classrooms. EXACTLY WHAT DOES AN ELEMENTARY CLASSROOM TEACHER DO ANYMORE???
Nope, no sympathy here.
I worked as a hospital custodian for years. A teacher just out of college gets paid as much a custodian!! (at least in my state) And even with years of experience teachers here make squat!! we are ranked 42nd in the nation for teacher pay but the NEA ranked us 2nd under Vermont as one of the best states to get an education in. For what they do teacher get paid squat.
What do they do, they educate the future of America!!!. these kids that are in our hand for most of their childhood are going to be making the decisions when you are going to retire!! Yeah, don't feel sorry for teachers because they don't do anything, because of people like you that vote and rant and rave about the system and put so many limitations on us that we can't do what we need to do to educate the future .
I have actually read many of the posts in this thread. I will finish the rest soon. Also, I realize the OP was a while ago. I still want to share my thoughts.
1. I think that the teacher was wrong. Period case closed. The right thing to do would have been to get the child out of the room until she calmed down. Usually there is a guidance counselor or even another classroom teacher that can help you out. I was not there, so I can't say exactly what she should have done. However, she made the wrong choice.
2. I won't speak for everywhere, but where I live, they do not really diagnose in the early grades. Early childhood classrooms are usually horrible because of this. They just leave the teachers to "deal with it". In my school, we have had violent children that attack teachers and other children. Whole entire classrooms have been destroyed; classrooms that were decorated using the teacher's own money. This is not just my school. I know teachers from other schools who deal with the same thing. That is not fair to the school, the child with the problem, and other other children.
3. One extremely disruptive child can indeed ruin the entire class, especially if the teacher is alone. How is he/she suppossed to teach?
4. My hope is that cases like this (although very sad) will open up the eyes of school districts, administrators, parents, and everybody. The laws need to change.
5. If I were the parent of a special needs child. I would NOT want them in a regular classroom with one teacher if my child could not function. That is horrible. I would be demanding a proper placement. If my child were a "regular" child in a class with an extremely disruptive child, I would pull them out if the child was not removed. I would rather home school than have my child suffer. I have seen children suffer because of 1 or 2 children. It is SO sad.
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