L.A. garment businesses looking at El Paso (Austin, West: section 8, real estate)

[simbared]

According to an L.A. Times article today, some Korean garment business owners are looking to relocate to El Paso.

One apparel maker was quoted as saying "Among ourselves, we're referring to it as an exodus. We're not thinking of going, we're going."

They're being squeezed by increasing minimum wage requirements and stricter labor enforcement. L.A. is going to require a minimum wage of $15/hour by 2020.

I think El Paso is a logical choice for them, with inexpensive commercial real estate and a huge labor force. Also, El Paso is no stranger to garment industries.

[Army_Guy]

Originally Posted by simbared

They're being squeezed by increasing minimum wage requirements and stricter labor enforcement. L.A. is going to require a minimum wage of $15/hour by 2020.

I think El Paso is a logical choice for them, with inexpensive commercial real estate and a huge labor force. Also, El Paso is no stranger to garment industries.

I don't know why more businesses don't come to Texas from California because of stuff like that.

Cost of living in El Paso is much lower than L.A. My parents live in L.A., they pay $1,200 a month for about 700 square feet of "house." It's a house partitioned, they have 2 rooms, bathroom, kitchen and living room. For them it fits because it's just the two of them. Contrast that to me renting a 2,200 square foot house on the west side for $1,250.

Also, we have no income tax here in TX, that means the worker keeps more of their earned money.

CA keeps trying to tax, raise this and that to lift itself to prosperity but it'll never work.

[Violet West]

We may see some more of this. In the recent past, the garment biz here died because of cheap Chinese and Asian labor. As that area of the world has become more prosperous, they are pricing themselves out of that, so we may get it back. I'm no expert on international economics though.

[lipbalm]

Originally Posted by Violet West

We may see some more of this. In the recent past, the garment biz here died because of cheap Chinese and Asian labor. As that area of the world has become more prosperous, they are pricing themselves out of that, so we may get it back. I'm no expert on international economics though.

Kind of sad that El Paso has been stuck in time and getting this industry back seems like a good thing.

Like getting China's hand me downs now.

[mistabinks]

Originally Posted by lipbalm

Kind of sad that El Paso has been stuck in time and getting this industry back seems like a good thing.

Like getting China's hand me downs now.

Is it sad that L.A is fighting to keep this industry?

[WestGuest]

We don't need a garment factory in El Paso. El Paso is growing rapidly enough and we don't need to be the low end labor capital of Texas. More traffic means, more pollution more accidents and and longer travel times.t

The bigger El Paso gets the more taxes we pay. Public officials say "We are a big city we need higher salaries" Did you notice the $60k salary increase for the city manager?

Why does the garment company want to come to El Paso? Is because we are a pretty town? Is it because of our educational opportunities? LOL
Its because we are the Juarez of the United States- cheap dumb labor.

Other cities can grow - Austin can expand in every direction but even there people are sick of it. We have geographic limits.

YOU will not benefit from this garment company unless you didn't bother to finish high school. You will not get discounts on their garments, Your taxes will not decrease.

People are like sheep -they hear something and repeat it "Grow Grow Grow" yeah sounds good.

Why in hell would this benefit us? If you're a developer yes it will benefit YOU. If you own the electric company it will add a tiny bit of money for you. It will also use quite a bit of our water resources.

I Chaired the Federal Funding Committee for El Paso for 5 years and built parks - public housing in poor areas and write columns for the El Paso Times and other Texas Papers. I don't want to talk about grad degrees etc but I'm not some bumpkin.

[HookTheBrotherUp]

Originally Posted by Army_Guy

I don't know why more businesses don't come to Texas from California because of stuff like that.

Cost of living in El Paso is much lower than L.A. My parents live in L.A., they pay $1,200 a month for about 700 square feet of "house." It's a house partitioned, they have 2 rooms, bathroom, kitchen and living room. For them it fits because it's just the two of them. Contrast that to me renting a 2,200 square foot house on the west side for $1,250.

Also, we have no income tax here in TX, that means the worker keeps more of their earned money.

CA keeps trying to tax, raise this and that to lift itself to prosperity but it'll never work.

CA keeps trying to raise taxes to pay for it's monster welfare programs. California is a welfare state. It is only 12% of the US population, but it receives 35% of the welfare benefits from the federal government. This means a good portion of your federal tax dollars goes to support all the welfare recipients in that sanctuary state, as well as the rest of the country, but California take more of the welfare pie.

El Paso used to be known as a textile city before the electronic and call center businesses came to town, I don't see why it should not reclaim those jobs. They may not be glamorous jobs, but they are jobs, and when people make money, people spend money, so other people make money. It's all good!

[kidicarus89]

Originally Posted by HookTheBrotherUp

CA keeps trying to raise taxes to pay for it's monster welfare programs. California is a welfare state. It is only 12% of the US population, but it receives 35% of the welfare benefits from the federal government. This means a good portion of your federal tax dollars goes to support all the welfare recipients in that sanctuary state, as well as the rest of the country, but California take more of the welfare pie.

California actually is one of the least dependent on federal aid, contributing far more in revenue than it recieves:

2015

The poor, Southern states rank as the most dependent (with our neighbor NM being #1).

[WestGuest]

Hook Make the Story up !

[HookTheBrotherUp]

Originally Posted by kidicarus89

California actually is one of the least dependent on federal aid, contributing far more in revenue than it recieves:

2015

The poor, Southern states rank as the most dependent (with our neighbor NM being #1).

Originally Posted by WestGuest

Hook Make the Story up !

Did you understand what you were reading? That article was about Federal Grants, Insurance and other spending that the Federal Government does in all states. It also took into account people working, I'm assuming legally since you need a SSN. It counts Federal workers twice. They mentioned welfare payments from the state, but that is not what that article was showing you.

This is from the article:

....

Methodology

In order to identify which states are most and least federally dependent, WalletHub examined the 50 U.S. states and across four key metrics, which are listed below with their corresponding weights.
1. Return on Taxes Paid to the Federal Government (Federal Funding in $ Divided by Federal Income Taxes in $): Weight = 1
2. Federal Funding as a Percentage of State Revenue (Federal Funding in $ Divided by State Revenue in $ then Multiplied by 100): Weight = 1
3. Number of Federal Employees per 1,000 Residents (Number of Federal Workers Divided by Number of State Residents): Weight = 0.5
4. Number of Civilian Non-Defense Federal Employees per 1,000 Residents (Total Federal Civilian Employment Minus Total Civilian Employment of Army, Air Force, Navy & Defense Department): Weight = 0.25

The following metrics were included in the report for context only. They represent subsets of federal funding and are reflected in the first two metrics.
•Federal Contracts Divided by IRS Collections
•Grants Divided by IRS Collections
•Direct Payments Divided by IRS Collections
•Federal Insurance Divided by IRS Collections
...

The only veiled reference to welfare payments is this quote from the article:

"The idea of the American freeloader burst into the public consciousness when #47percent started trending on Twitter. And while the notion is senselessly insulting to millions of hardworking Americans, it is true that some states receive a far higher return on their federal income tax contributions than others."

They word it like this for the average American who wont understand, but what they really are saying is that YES, some states (California) receive more federal welfare payments than others. I like how they refer to it as receiving "a far higher return on their federal income tax contributions".

EBT, WIC, Section 8, Phones, etc. Do a Google on "Is California a welfare state?" and you will get all sorts of articles, but most say the same thing, percentages change, but it's all the same basically. Here is just one:

Is California the welfare capital? | SanDiegoUnionTribune.com


I do not make things up, ever. Anyway, 'sorry to veer off topic, this is about bringing jobs to El Paso, enough said on my part.