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So let me get this straight! Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about Monica Lewinsky polishing his knob in the Oval Office when it was really nobody's business. Why he was even on the stand to me is incomprehensible. That man balanced the federal budget, but that was irrelevent. George W. Bush took the equivalent of two years vacation the entire time he was in office.
Bush lied about sending other people's children to die so Cheney could build an empire in the Middle East. Bush himself even admitted on Meet The Press he couldn't find the link between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. Bush never found Osama Bin Laden like he promised, and he authorized torture down at Guantanamo.
Meanwhile, Barack Obama is a horrible President because he couldn't pull out his magic wand and work up miracles overnight after he took office. Obama is a disgrace because he's he didn't drop his pants, squat down, and start crapping out golden eggs. It's all his fault deficit spending went wild, and he couldn't fix it even when Congress has given him hell the entire time he's been President.
Nevermind that he ended the Iraq War Bush created, killed Osama bin Laden, saved us from a second recession, or that he's putting deadlines on our withdrawal from Afghanistan because he understands the price of these wars are ones neither we nor our children can afford.
Without further ado, it's socialism whenever we assist the poor and middle class because they're there by choice. Spending money to build better schools, levees, dams, locks, roads, and bridges isn't cost-effective. Neither is extending unemployment because the blame lies solely on those unable to find jobs due to their lack of ambition even though many of them were outsourced.
Making the rich pay taxes is "punishing success" but making the poor and working class foot the bill is "good for business" as long as the rich pay no taxes. Throwing out life rafts for the rich is good for business because squandering $700 billion to Bank of America, AIG, and Citibank was supposed to get us out of the recession. Spending $1 billion on a brand new sports complex while the owner gets a 10-percent profit is good for the community, but getting people off welfare isn't worth our tax dollars.
Finally, the debt wasn't a big deal when Bush was in office, but now it's top priority with Obama in there. Meanwhile, we're supposed to cut taxes and lower them on the wealthy and somehow expect the debt to miraculously disappear. Let me guess! We're supposed to pray it away. Am I reading all this right?
To the author of that rambling, thoughtless, hilariously vapid opening post....
Please lay off the Kool Aid.
Aha! Yes, no counterargument but only harmless insults. Your banter is overstated while your sarcasm is understated. Thank you for your suggestion, but I never was a big fan of Kool-aid. I prefer either green tea or milk. Also, I'm an avid fan of Monster Energy. The green kind is my favorite. For some reason, I have an affliction towards the color green.
So let me get this straight! Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about Monica Lewinsky polishing his knob in the Oval Office when it was really nobody's business.
Well your opinion is obviously contrived & construed as person with absolutely no conscience.
Obama is a monster - We need 800,000 MILLIONS - for shovel ready jobs.
Obama will save us! you are so blind you can't even see the handwriting on the wall.
Considering the Republican's terrible choice for a candidate, this campaign will be worst than McCain/Palin.
Yes, I agree considering Mitt Romney just accepted the endorsement from Ted Nugent - a self-proclaimed pedophile and closet bigot who said if Obama gets reelected he'll either be dead or in jail by this time next year. I'm surprised the Secret Service and FBI didn't jump all over that. With any luck, Ted Nugent will be Mitt Romney's Swiftboat.
Well your opinion is obviously contrived & construed as person with absolutely no conscience.
Obama is a monster - We need 800,000 MILLIONS - for shovel ready jobs.
Obama will save us! you are so blind you can't even see the handwriting on the wall.
Obama is about to be ARRESTED!
Have you been hanging out with Sarah Palin? I see you're from Alaska. Anyway, Obama is bringing in more jobs. Nobody said it would happen overnight. He wanted to create more by putting stimulus money into our infrastructure, but Congress won't let him. Mitt Romney must be desperate if he's accepting the endorsement from Ted Nugent.
So let me get this straight! Bill Clinton got impeached for lying about Monica Lewinsky polishing his knob in the Oval Office when it was really nobody's business.
No, he was impeached for obstruction of justice and lying under oath. I know that doesn't mean much to liberals, but for those of us who believe the President isn't above the law, it matters. And when the President is getting BJs from interns half his age while ignoring his duties, you're darn tootin that's our business.
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Why he was even on the stand to me is incomprehensible. That man balanced the federal budget, but that was irrelevent.
No, the GOP Congress balanced the budget. If it weren't for Clinton and the Democrats, a balanced budget amendment would have been enacted in 1994 and the idiot in charge now wouldn't have been able to blow $5T we don't have.
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George W. Bush took the equivalent of two years vacation the entire time he was in office.
False.
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Bush lied about sending other people's children to die so Cheney could build an empire in the Middle East.
Ridiculous tinfoilery. If you had any understanding about the way intelligence gathering works, you wouldn't even post such nonsense. The fact is that the intelligence from everyone including our allies said that Saddam had WMD. Did he? We will never know because Bush stupidly held off on invading in an effort to build more international support and to pacify the left. I believe the WMD were there and that Saddam disposed of the evidence in the year we sat waiting for international support from France and Germany that never materialized.
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Bush himself even admitted on Meet The Press he couldn't find the link between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks.
He "admitted" nothing. He did state a fact. The reason we invaded Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. Please read the Iraq War Resolution because you clearly do not grasp or understand the reasons we invaded Iraq. Although the IWR is quite long, it didn't need to be. As soon as Saddam fired on U.S. aircraft enforcing the no flow zone, that was an act of war that entitled us to turn Baghdad into a glass parking lot.
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Bush never found Osama Bin Laden like he promised, and he authorized torture down at Guantanamo.
OBL was not found during Bush's term in office, but he WAS found as a result of the rebuilding of the military and the intelligence agencies during the Bush Presidency. Obama managed not to fk it up, which I do give him credit for. As far as "torture" goes, if you are talking about waterboarding that has been debated ad nauseum and both sides have valid arguments.
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Meanwhile, Barack Obama is a horrible President because he couldn't pull out his magic wand and work up miracles overnight after he took office.
An entire term in the office of the Presidency is not "overnight." It was Oblama himself who told us to judge him on the results. He also told us that if his pork bill was passed, unemployment wouldn't go above 8%. Guess what? Here we are three years later and UE is STILL over 8%. The only difference is that Oblama plssed away $5T paying off his special interest groups that your kids are going to have to pay back in 40 years.
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Obama is a disgrace because he's he didn't drop his pants, squat down, and start crapping out golden eggs. It's all his fault deficit spending went wild, and he couldn't fix it even when Congress has given him hell the entire time he's been President.
Yes, Obama is a disgrace. It's not for the reason you cite though. He's been a disgrace because he has totally failed to lead at every possible opportunity. Even with respect to his signature "achievement," Obamacare, he didn't lead. He told a couple of morons, Pelosi and Reid, to write the bill. They proceeded to do it in the dark of night, with no input from the opposition party, and with no transparency whatsoever. The dimwit still doesn't understand why 2/3 of the people are against the bill.
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Nevermind that he ended the Iraq War Bush created,
The war ended on Bush's timetable. Oblama and the Democrats started campaigning on ending the war in Iraq waaaaay back in 2005. It didn't end until 2011, despite the fact that the Democrats could have ended it any time they wanted from 2006 forward by cutting the purse strings. Iraq and the war were used solely as a political tool to regain power, and you fell for it hook line and sinker. And you don't even know it, lol.
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killed Osama bin Laden,
Thanks to Bush's rebuilding of the military and intelligence services.
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saved us from a second recession,
Meaningless unprovable pap. His policies have not taken us out of the recession and there is more than enough evidence to show that his blowing $5T on crap like Solyndra hurt more than helped.
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or that he's putting deadlines on our withdrawal from Afghanistan because he understands the price of these wars are ones neither we nor our children can afford.
Obama only understands and cares about one thing: Getting elected. His race-baiting in the Gates and Martin matters pretty much proves that.
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Without further ado, it's socialism whenever we assist the poor and middle class because they're there by choice.
When will you silly liberals stop belching out feel good rhetoric and look at the facts? The federal government has spent trillions upon trillions on the poor and middle class and guess what? Poverty still exists. We CANNOT continue to spend money we don't have because it soothes our guilty consciences.
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Spending money to build better schools, levees, dams, locks, roads, and bridges isn't cost-effective.
It's not the federal governments job to build schools and most of the other things are the responsibility of the states as well.
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Neither is extending unemployment because the blame lies solely on those unable to find jobs due to their lack of ambition even though many of them were outsourced.
Unemployment benefits going on endlessly as a jobs program are not fiscally sustainable or desirable, even to most of the people who have to use UE benefits.
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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles
Making the rich pay taxes is "punishing success" but making the poor and working class foot the bill is "good for business" as long as the rich pay no taxes.
More ignorant idiocy. The "rich" pay the vast, vast, vast majority of taxes in this country. The poor get paid via the Earned Income Tax Credit, which should be repealed. The middle class get screwed too because the Democrats think anyone who works a private sector job is "rich."
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Throwing out life rafts for the rich is good for business because squandering $700 billion to Bank of America, AIG, and Citibank was supposed to get us out of the recession.
Yet you still support Oblama even though he doubled down on the bank bailouts. Hilarious.
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Spending $1 billion on a brand new sports complex while the owner gets a 10-percent profit is good for the community, but getting people off welfare isn't worth our tax dollars.
What exactly are you ranting about here?
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Finally, the debt wasn't a big deal when Bush was in office, but now it's top priority with Obama in there.
Wrong. Conservatives like me were righteously angry and upset that nothing was done to address the deficit during the Bush years. I was particularly incensed when he blew $15B on African AIDS research and a new prescription drug benefit. That said, Bush had a couple things that he had to deal with - 9/11 and two wars. What's Oblama's excuse for running up twice as much debt in half the time?
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Meanwhile, we're supposed to cut taxes and lower them on the wealthy and somehow expect the debt to miraculously disappear. Let me guess! We're supposed to pray it away. Am I reading all this right?
Yes, I agree considering Mitt Romney just accepted the endorsement from Ted Nugent - a self-proclaimed pedophile and closet bigot who said if Obama gets reelected he'll either be dead or in jail by this time next year. I'm surprised the Secret Service and FBI didn't jump all over that. With any luck, Ted Nugent will be Mitt Romney's Swiftboat.
Wake up.
1. Obama has increased the debt from $8.6 trillion to $17 trillion
2. Unemployment has risen under Obama. It is even worse than the numbers show, as many have given up looking for jobs.
3. Obama is fine with annual deficits of $1.3 trillion
4. Obama has rejected the only plan (the Ryan plan) which actually addressed the current wild spending.
5. If Obama is re-elected, it is estimated that the federal debt will be $24 trillion (our current GDP is $14 trillion).
6. With a debt of 180% GDP and the level of bonds held by other nations, we will have to institute MARKED austerity measures, which will harm the poor and elderly the most. Entitlements will have to be cut dramatically.
7. Taxing "the rich" at 100% (slavery) only generates an additional revenue of $900 billion, therefore the "tax the rich" plan is not the solution.
8. We have the highest corporate tax rates in the world.
9. Obama has restricted domestic energy production and transportation which would create jobs and reduce reliance on foriegn energy.
If you are not independently wealthy, you had better hope that Obama is not re-elected, as the perpetuation of his first term will harm what is left of the middle class and the poor the most.
Our only chance is a balanced budget amendment, which, of course, Obama opposes. Obama further opposes any cuts in spending. Good luck- you will need it.
No, he was impeached for obstruction of justice and lying under oath. I know that doesn't mean much to liberals, but for those of us who believe the President isn't above the law, it matters. And when the President is getting BJs from interns half his age while ignoring his duties, you're darn tootin that's our business.
No, the GOP Congress balanced the budget. If it weren't for Clinton and the Democrats, a balanced budget amendment would have been enacted in 1994 and the idiot in charge now wouldn't have been able to blow $5T we don't have.
False.
Ridiculous tinfoilery. If you had any understanding about the way intelligence gathering works, you wouldn't even post such nonsense. The fact is that the intelligence from everyone including our allies said that Saddam had WMD. Did he? We will never know because Bush stupidly held off on invading in an effort to build more international support and to pacify the left. I believe the WMD were there and that Saddam disposed of the evidence in the year we sat waiting for international support from France and Germany that never materialized.
He "admitted" nothing. He did state a fact. The reason we invaded Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. Please read the Iraq War Resolution because you clearly do not grasp or understand the reasons we invaded Iraq. Although the IWR is quite long, it didn't need to be. As soon as Saddam fired on U.S. aircraft enforcing the no flow zone, that was an act of war that entitled us to turn Baghdad into a glass parking lot.
OBL was not found during Bush's term in office, but he WAS found as a result of the rebuilding of the military and the intelligence agencies during the Bush Presidency. Obama managed not to fk it up, which I do give him credit for. As far as "torture" goes, if you are talking about waterboarding that has been debated ad nauseum and both sides have valid arguments.
An entire term in the office of the Presidency is not "overnight." It was Oblama himself who told us to judge him on the results. He also told us that if his pork bill was passed, unemployment wouldn't go above 8%. Guess what? Here we are three years later and UE is STILL over 8%. The only difference is that Oblama plssed away $5T paying off his special interest groups that your kids are going to have to pay back in 40 years.
Yes, Obama is a disgrace. It's not for the reason you cite though. He's been a disgrace because he has totally failed to lead at every possible opportunity. Even with respect to his signature "achievement," Obamacare, he didn't lead. He told a couple of morons, Pelosi and Reid, to write the bill. They proceeded to do it in the dark of night, with no input from the opposition party, and with no transparency whatsoever. The dimwit still doesn't understand why 2/3 of the people are against the bill.
The war ended on Bush's timetable. Oblama and the Democrats started campaigning on ending the war in Iraq waaaaay back in 2005. It didn't end until 2011, despite the fact that the Democrats could have ended it any time they wanted from 2006 forward by cutting the purse strings. Iraq and the war were used solely as a political tool to regain power, and you fell for it hook line and sinker. And you don't even know it, lol.
Thanks to Bush's rebuilding of the military and intelligence services.
Meaningless unprovable pap. His policies have not taken us out of the recession and there is more than enough evidence to show that his blowing $5T on crap like Solyndra hurt more than helped.
Obama only understands and cares about one thing: Getting elected. His race-baiting in the Gates and Martin matters pretty much proves that.
When will you silly liberals stop belching out feel good rhetoric and look at the facts? The federal government has spent trillions upon trillions on the poor and middle class and guess what? Poverty still exists. We CANNOT continue to spend money we don't have because it soothes our guilty consciences.
It's not the federal governments job to build schools and most of the other things are the responsibility of the states as well.
Unemployment benefits going on endlessly as a jobs program are not fiscally sustainable or desirable, even to most of the people who have to use UE benefits.
More ignorant idiocy. The "rich" pay the vast, vast, vast majority of taxes in this country. The poor get paid via the Earned Income Tax Credit, which should be repealed. The middle class get screwed too because the Democrats think anyone who works a private sector job is "rich."
Yet you still support Oblama even though he doubled down on the bank bailouts. Hilarious.
What exactly are you ranting about here?
Wrong. Conservatives like me were righteously angry and upset that nothing was done to address the deficit during the Bush years. I was particularly incensed when he blew $15B on African AIDS research and a new prescription drug benefit. That said, Bush had a couple things that he had to deal with - 9/11 and two wars. What's Oblama's excuse for running up twice as much debt in half the time?
No, you're wrong about practically everything.
Ah yes! More pontificating from the neo-cons trying to take credit for what they didn't do.
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