"Ron Paul Believes Businesses Should Be Allowed To Put Up A 'NO BLACKS' Sign!" (house of representatives, represent)
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Apparently you have not read this thread since that has been answered time and again. If a business was so stupid as to blatantly discriminate we would picket, protest and call for boycotts and this business would go belly up; no need for a nanny state whatsoever. I believe in you more than you do.
I disagree. People buy chocolate and diamonds produced with literal slavery. People buy electronics that fund the most deadly wars since WWII in central Africa. Hell, people eat animals hat are kept in abysmal conditions and slaughtered.
People just are not wired to care about those who aren't directly related to them. The problem isn't knowing when something is wrong. It's getting people to care. Activists in the aforementioned areas will tell you that it is a sisyphean task.
Lemme ask you a question: why do you need the government to tell you something is wrong when you already know it is? I believe in you more than you do.
You right-wingers love to quote the Declaration of Independence, so you should be committed to the principle that all men are created equal, with the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
TO be equal means you don't have the right to tell me what I can do on my private property.
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In order to have a civil society we cannot tolerate a system that allows businesses to categorically deny service to people based on their race, religion, or the other categories protected by the Civil Rights Act.
In a Constitutional society,we cannot allow laws to restrict an individuals right to their private property even if it is for 'good reasons'....but those driven by emotion will have difficulty with the concept of logical thought.
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To hear Ron Paul say it, racial discrimination was the result of law, not the cause of it.
I missed that,could you post where he said that?
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It is very convenient for all of you who have never faced race discrimination to parrot the "businesses should be allowed to serve anyone they want" line. If you think civil rights laws are no longer needed you are kidding yourselves.
Are you asserting that if the CRA was abolished,businesses would rush to bar groups from entering?
Is that your position that people are secretly pining to discriminate but are only held in check by a law?
It's easy to say this when you are the majority. If every black owned business decided to not serve whites and every white owned business decided o not serve blacks, white people would win out of sheer volume.
This all goes back to what I said on the last page about the ease of dismissing something that doesn't affect you.
You believe every white owned business would bar black people?
Is that your assertion?
I don't really care about whether it would happen or the legality of it because that has been decided and the odds of going back on that decision are vanishingly small. What I challenge is the unsubstantiated altruism of people that has been asserted by people in this thread.
People demonstrate so many times in a given day just how little they care about the human suffering and indignity that they don't personally witness. What makes you think that this would be different?
Are you asserting that if the CRA was abolished,businesses would rush to bar groups from entering?
These are the same people that tell you that businesses are greedy, and only care about money in one breath, but in the next, they tell you that people will turn away money because the person giving it happens to be "different" than them.. Another example of them disputing their own positions...
Lemme ask you a question: why do you need the government to tell you something is wrong when you already know it is? I believe in you more than you do.
I need the government to tell ignorant people what's wrong so they wont harm good people. They're called laws. Before we had laws banning it, slavery was legal. You can't just let everybody run wild because not everybody is capable of governing themselves in a society where we all must interact. I know what's right or wrong but as evidenced on this board, many have no idea whats right, wrong or what the heck is going on in general. Ron Paul and his rabid followers reside in a fantasy world evolution is false and racism should be accepted. Fortunately, most dismiss that foolishness.
I need the government to tell ignorant people what's wrong so they wont harm good people. They're called laws. Before we had laws banning it, slavery was legal. You can't just let everybody run wild because not everybody is capable of governing themselves in a society where we all must interact. I know what's right or wrong but as evidenced on this board, many have no idea whats right, wrong or what the heck is going on in general. Ron Paul and his rabid followers reside in a fantasy world evolution is false and racism should be accepted. Fortunately, most dismiss that foolishness.
So by your own admission "most dismiss that foolishness" and wouldnt visit a business that discriminates, and yet you think the free markets would suddenly embrace racism by businesses because its full of false and racism? Sounds almost like you are arguing against yourself at times..
Apparently you have not read this thread since that has been answered time and again. If a business was so stupid as to blatantly discriminate we would picket, protest and call for boycotts and this business would go belly up; no need for a nanny state whatsoever. I believe in you more than you do.
No, I've seen you and others try to make that point time and again.
I do not believe for a second that you and the other people here stating their opposition to civil rights legislation would be out protesting against discrimination.
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