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Old 05-15-2011, 01:11 PM
 
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OK, so you don't want the government telling you how to think, which is not necessarily the same thing as forcing you to adhere to certain guidelines, but, nevertheless, why do you libertarians think that people will, as sophiasmommy wrote "already know what to do"? If we already know what to do, why do we still have all these problems? Businesses still pollute the environment and get away with it. Businesses write laws that affect them so they don't have to be held accountable for their actions. There are still racists and bigots, etc.

Seems to me your outrage (and insults! WTF?) is because you so vehemently hate government involvement in anything. You don't want to be held accountable to anyone and consider it an affront to be forced to work within specific guidelines. Isn't that how criminals treat the law, without any respect? I get that people want freedom, but they don't seem to understand that total freedom without regard to the surroundings is as much a swing in an unsupportable position as slavery is. The middle is the only workable option: compromise.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:11 PM
 
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Any facts to back this up?
There is no facts that Paul is a racist, but thats what the OP and Maddow are implying.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:12 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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If any of the droids could explain what right the government has to decide who a business can and cannot serve in a logical manner please do so....
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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Typical liberal, hide messages from people you dont agree with, and pretend they dont exist..
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No need to be so rude.
There was nothing rude about the reply..
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It's what that poster does best.
How would you know, they are on your ignore list.. ooh the humor
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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I grew up in eastern NC, where race was the basis of a lot of politics, social life, economics, etc. Restaurants, motels & other hospitality type businesses generally would not serve Blacks, or served them take out only, at the back door. Argue what you will, such practices hurt the freedom of the person on the short end and limit his ability to compete in business and commerce and make a living.

I have generally been a Ron Paul supporter but this would be a deal breaker if he supports legalized discrimination in business.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Europe
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And that accountability would be the vast majority of us boycotting the store for being owned by racist bigots. Why do you need the government to tell you what you already know what to do? You do not need a nanny state, you're a big boy, I promise.
Says the person that was against the mosque in Manhattan. So much for freedom of private property.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:15 PM
 
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If any of the droids could explain what right the government has to decide who a business can and cannot serve in a logical manner please do so....
I bet these very same people have no problem with a business posting a

"No Guns allowed" sign

Its only rights they want to enforce that matter, odly enough, the very ones not listed in the Constitution..
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:16 PM
 
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If any of the droids could explain what right the government has to decide who a business can and cannot serve in a logical manner please do so....
You expect a response to a question after repeatedly insulting the audience? Shut the front door!
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I grew up in eastern NC, where race was the basis of a lot of politics, social life, economics, etc. Restaurants, motels & other hospitality type businesses generally would not serve Blacks, or served them take out only, at the back door. Argue what you will, such practices hurt the freedom of the person on the short end and limit his ability to compete in business and commerce and make a living.

I have generally been a Ron Paul supporter but this would be a deal breaker if he supports legalized discrimination in business.
It isn't 1965 anymore....

Why should the government be allowed to force a private individual to serve someone they do not want to serve?
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:17 PM
 
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I grew up in eastern NC, where race was the basis of a lot of politics, social life, economics, etc. Restaurants, motels & other hospitality type businesses generally would not serve Blacks, or served them take out only, at the back door. Argue what you will, such practices hurt the freedom of the person on the short end and limit his ability to compete in business and commerce and make a living.

I have generally been a Ron Paul supporter but this would be a deal breaker if he supports legalized discrimination in business.

And people and society evolved and realized how wrong and hateful these policies were. We now know that racial discrimination is stupid, so why they need to be told that by the government? If any business was so blatantly dumb as to openly discriminate based on race, there would be free and legal protests, boycotts and eventually the business would go out of business (rightfully so) all without government interference. I believe in you more than you do.
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