Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-07-2011, 12:14 PM
 
9,879 posts, read 8,020,347 times
Reputation: 2521

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by quality guy View Post
What? Haven't you been listening to this 'person?' He indicates he would ..to a great degree, Dis-mantle the military!!

Have you missed somethin'...tis not I.
Actually you missed a lot Dr. Paul is not against
having a "strong defense". You simply do not know the
difference between that and "militarism". I do think,
reading is in order for you
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-07-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
77,771 posts, read 104,756,288 times
Reputation: 49248
Quote:
Originally Posted by mb1547 View Post
I didn't mean all republicans--I mean the far right end of the party--the largely social conservative ones who see the D's as evil vs. just another opinion. I don't think it's unfair to say there are almost 2 R parties right now: the social moderate/pragmatic business oriented vs. the social conservative/hard right econ conservatives mixed in with the neocons. Personally--I think there will be moderate R's crossing over to vote D if the nominee is viewed as too extreme, but on the other side, I think some of the far right R's will just stay home if they see the nominee as too much toward the middle. I think you're right that you'll see virtually zero D crossover to R, but they could pick up a bunch of lean D independents if they nominate a socially moderate, likeable R candidate. It's going to be interesting, and it's a darned if you do, darned if you don't kind of situation.
Yes, the over the hill right wingers are one thing, but believe it or not they are not the majority, anymore than the majority of Democrats are name calling libs. I too would like to see a socially moderate Republican as well, I am just not sure who that person is yet. Both Romney and Perry have some socially moderate leaning, of course, overall I think Romney is much more liberal than Perry on everything. Though I didn't like many of Christie's views that is the one thing I did like about him: he is fiscally conservative but socially moderate to liberal: maybe too liberal for many.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-07-2011, 12:22 PM
 
3,335 posts, read 2,660,694 times
Reputation: 565
Quote:
Originally Posted by pollyrobin View Post
Actually you missed a lot Dr. Paul is not against
having a "strong defense". You simply do not know the
difference between that and "militarism". I do think,
reading is in order for you
Like I was compelled to say to another poster recently, ''Thinking' is not your best attribute, is it?''
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-07-2011, 12:46 PM
 
10,092 posts, read 8,206,642 times
Reputation: 3411
Quote:
Originally Posted by quality guy View Post
Only after thinking about this...for a good while, and observing the worsening of EVERYTHING, let me give my view. Since Ronald Reagan left office in '89....I believe God has been punishing America by allowing 'bad' presidents to harm, to damage our country...by causing a multitude of blunders, errors, bad decisions, etc.
My personal take? God loves us. He created us in his image, and gave us free will. He gave us the tools, but the choices are ours to make. I think rather than God punishing us, when we do dumb things, we punish ourselves with the consequences. We get closer to God as we learn and grow
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-07-2011, 12:53 PM
 
3,335 posts, read 2,660,694 times
Reputation: 565
Quote:
Originally Posted by mb1547 View Post
My personal take? God loves us. He created us in his image, and gave us free will. He gave us the tools, but the choices are ours to make. I think rather than God punishing us, when we do dumb things, we punish ourselves with the consequences. We get closer to God as we learn and grow
As a country, on the whole, America has 'pretty much' forsaken God! He KNOWS how to draw those who will, back.

That's been my perception of it. And a dynamic 'Man of God,' a Minister, has told me God is bringing 'Judgement' upon sinful America! - (check The Old Testament) I believe that!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-07-2011, 12:56 PM
 
10,092 posts, read 8,206,642 times
Reputation: 3411
Quote:
Originally Posted by nmnita View Post
Yes, the over the hill right wingers are one thing, but believe it or not they are not the majority, anymore than the majority of Democrats are name calling libs. I too would like to see a socially moderate Republican as well, I am just not sure who that person is yet. Both Romney and Perry have some socially moderate leaning, of course, overall I think Romney is much more liberal than Perry on everything. Though I didn't like many of Christie's views that is the one thing I did like about him: he is fiscally conservative but socially moderate to liberal: maybe too liberal for many.
As I said earlier, I like Huntsman, but he's at the very bottom of the polls right now. If you read through earlier in the thread, I linked to a WSJ article that raved about his economic plan. He could still come up from behind if the business side of the party gets behind him. I think he's probably running with a goal of 2016 though--he may have been looking at this race as a chance get some name recognition and a feel for a national campaign.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-07-2011, 01:15 PM
 
9,879 posts, read 8,020,347 times
Reputation: 2521
Quote:
Originally Posted by quality guy View Post
Like I was compelled to say to another poster recently, ''Thinking' is not your best attribute, is it?''
But insulting others, is yours Carry on
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-07-2011, 01:47 PM
 
3,335 posts, read 2,660,694 times
Reputation: 565
Quote:
Originally Posted by pollyrobin View Post
But insulting others, is yours Carry on
Sorry pol, just trying to be clear...you don't need to tell me what you think I should do. I already know Ron Paul is not a sound choice. I don't 'need' to read anything to know more about that fact!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-07-2011, 02:40 PM
 
Location: USA
498 posts, read 1,456,053 times
Reputation: 438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katzpur View Post
I disagree with you on this point, Lamborgotti. As you may recall, the first time he ran, it was against one of the Mattheson sons (can't recall the first name), whose father was probably the most popular and well-liked governor the state of Utah ever had. Both men carried on a civil campaign and the vote was reasonably close. It could have gone either way, and it wouldn't have been because of their fathers.
I disagree. I think both men weaned off of their fathers' reputations. Neither Scott Jr. nor Jon Jr. would've gotten to that point and had as much support if they had come from anonymous families.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-07-2011, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
77,771 posts, read 104,756,288 times
Reputation: 49248
Quote:
Originally Posted by mb1547 View Post
My personal take? God loves us. He created us in his image, and gave us free will. He gave us the tools, but the choices are ours to make. I think rather than God punishing us, when we do dumb things, we punish ourselves with the consequences. We get closer to God as we learn and grow
I said this to a fellow employee one time. She wanted very much to be a supervisor and just before the announcement was made she said to me: If I get the promotion it will be cause God wanted me to have it and he is the only one in control. My words back to her were, just what you are saying: no, God will not do this, you did it, he gave you the tools but it is up to you what you do with them. Yes, she did get the job. She was on my team, I was a supervisor and as happy as I was, I knew I would miss her.

NIta
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:26 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top