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Old 01-12-2012, 02:18 AM
 
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Why do you believe the tea party should be anti-Paul? After all, Paul pioneered the whole tea party movement in 2007 ... before he did it, no one did(since the Boston incident) ... you people are so out of touch with reality. The tea party as it exists today has been co-opted by the Koch brothers ... Billionaire Brother Bastards! Their name will be always a curse on the lips of honest people ...
Paul did not put teeth to the Tea Party movement. Sarah Palin did. Paul is the hero promoter for destructive drugs (marijuana) and an insane foreign policy. Paul will be a distant memory in a month or so, Thankfully, his followers will be leaderless.
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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But you see, Obama is our first black president, he is basically intelligent and likable,
(and INCOMPETENT)
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and I think most people want to give him the chance to lead.
(and PRAYING that he's learned something in his first 4 years)
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They see no advantage of going with a bunch of loonies or a corporate lapdog like Romney.
(Which gives a choice between the lessor evils just one more time)
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I think most people are inclined to go with the incumbent unless they really see him screw up. Obama hasn't.
Actually, he has, but his "handlers" have been able to cover it over because the public is so willing to blame Bush for the economy
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He has had a tough row to hoe, with the economy,
Which he has shown that he knows nothing about.
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but it is hard to see how, say, someone like Romney, Paul, or Perry would have been able to miraculously stop the largest loss in personal wealth in the last 80 years. I mean people certainly could just do a protest vote against Obama, but I don't think they will. The alternatives are no better.
Actually, if you look at the primary vote in NH, 10% of the voters DID PROTEST against Obama by writing in other names. But, given a way to do so, and far more people will "throw their vote into the trash can" rather than approve of either party's candidate. People are SICK AND TIRED, AND FED UP with constantly being given the LESSOR OF TWO EVILS to choose from. It means voter turn-out will be very low. Most people will feel that it won't make any difference if they vote or not, so they won't even bother going to the polls.

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Now, if he really stinks the place up in his second term, then you will be talking about something like Bush fatigue. We are a long way from that.
Actually, most people already have a severe case of "OBAMA FATIGUE", but don't see any "relief" by voting for the opposition.

A very good example of the cause of "VOTER APATHY" is in the form of Clinton's "Victory Speech", against Bush (the elder).
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The PEOPLE have sent "us" a message.
And, what he failed to see was that the "message" was not for Clinton. It was a message for Bush. We were telling him that we did not forget his "READ-MY-LIPS TAX". And, Bush finally realized that just one week before the election. That was when he began to say he was sorry, but too late. If the voters had had a way to do so, they would have sent Clinton a message as well. Abstaining from voting is simply seen as APATHY, and is not taken as any kind of message. So, Obama may be seen, once again, as the lessor of the evils.
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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(and INCOMPETENT)(and PRAYING that he's learned something in his first 4 years)(Which gives a choice between the lessor evils just one more time)Actually, he has, but his "handlers" have been able to cover it over because the public is so willing to blame Bush for the economy Which he has shown that he knows nothing about.Actually, if you look at the primary vote in NH, 10% of the voters DID PROTEST against Obama by writing in other names. But, given a way to do so, and far more people will "throw their vote into the trash can" rather than approve of either party's candidate. People are SICK AND TIRED, AND FED UP with constantly being given the LESSOR OF TWO EVILS to choose from. It means voter turn-out will be very low. Most people will feel that it won't make any difference if they vote or not, so they won't even bother going to the polls.


Actually, most people already have a severe case of "OBAMA FATIGUE", but don't see any "relief" by voting for the opposition.

A very good example of the cause of "VOTER APATHY" is in the form of Clinton's "Victory Speech", against Bush (the elder). And, what he failed to see was that the "message" was not for Clinton. It was a message for Bush. We were telling him that we did not forget his "READ-MY-LIPS TAX". And, Bush finally realized that just one week before the election. That was when he began to say he was sorry, but too late. If the voters had had a way to do so, they would have sent Clinton a message as well. Abstaining from voting is simply seen as APATHY, and is not taken as any kind of message. So, Obama may be seen, once again, as the lessor of the evils.
The irony of all this is that Bush I was a much better president than Bush II, but the second was reelected. Go figure.

The rest of the post is your opinions,and you are entitled to them. Mine differ.
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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Paul did not put teeth to the Tea Party movement. Sarah Palin did. Paul is the hero promoter for destructive drugs (marijuana) and an insane foreign policy. Paul will be a distant memory in a month or so, Thankfully, his followers will be leaderless.
Goochy Goochy goo? Babe go poo poo?
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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the reasons?

1) Republicans Don't Love Him

"Candidate enthusiasm is a key antecedent of electoral success. Whichever nominee generates the most excitement among its base typically has an easier time getting their supporters to the polls and ultimately securing more votes"
Also OWS people who are mainly democrats are more motivated.

2)Tea Parties Can't Stand Him

"To this point, though, the Tea Party movement has wanted nothing to do with Romney"

3) Low Income Men Can't Relate to Him

"Romney has done poorly among low income, white men. In the Iowa caucuses, he received less than 15 percent of their support."

4) Independents Don't Support Him

"Despite all his success in the nomination campaign, Romney has been unable to attract much support from independents."

All this is recipe for an Obama re-election and now that the economy is starting to improve, it makes things even more difficult for Romney.
read more here

After New Hampshire primary win, all is not rosy for Mitt Romney - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
A large portion of the media has also been showing Romney favortism. I think one post on city-data quoted Sarah Palin who stated that the media is building Romney up just to tear him down.
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