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The longer Paul stays in, the lower the chances Romney has in the general. Paul's fiscal conservative message will resonate with independents and they won't settle for wishy washy behavior once they've had a taste of consistency.
Romney may appeal to soccer mom moderates, but it'll be a net loss considering the amount of fiscal conservatives who'll sit it out.
Sane fiscal conservatives understand that the number one goal is retiring Obama, not slobbing the nob of a 70 year old gynecologist and career politician who has never passed a major piece of legislation in his long, long life in Washington.
"Candidate enthusiasm is a key antecedent of electoral success. Whichever nominee generates the most excitement among its base typically has an easier time getting their supporters to the polls and ultimately securing more votes"
Also OWS people who are mainly democrats are more motivated.
2)Tea Parties Can't Stand Him
"To this point, though, the Tea Party movement has wanted nothing to do with Romney"
3) Low Income Men Can't Relate to Him
"Romney has done poorly among low income, white men. In the Iowa caucuses, he received less than 15 percent of their support."
4) Independents Don't Support Him
"Despite all his success in the nomination campaign, Romney has been unable to attract much support from independents."
All this is recipe for an Obama re-election and now that the economy is starting to improve, it makes things even more difficult for Romney.
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Whether or not anyone likes Romney is inessential. He's being set up by the powers that be to lose and cycle through the bench for 2016. Obama's the best thing to happen to Republican politics in a generation, why throw away a perfect marketing tool?
McCain would have stomped Obama in any other election. He was just unlucky enough to have an electorate that had Bush fatigue.
In 2012, everyone has Obama fatigue, and he is TOAST assuming the GOP has the good sense to nominate Romney or Newt. Santorum could beat him too.
But you see, Obama is our first black president, he is basically intelligent and likable, and I think most people want to give him the chance to lead. They see no advantage of going with a bunch of loonies or a corporate lapdog like Romney. I think most people are inclined to go with the incumbent unless they really see him screw up. Obama hasn't. He has had a tough row to hoe, with the economy, but it is hard to see how, say, someone like Romney, Paul, or Perry would have been able to miraculously stop the largest loss in personal wealth in the last 80 years. I mean people certainly could just do a protest vote against Obama, but I don't think they will. The alternatives are no better.
Now, if he really stinks the place up in his second term, then you will be talking about something like Bush fatigue. We are a long way from that.
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The comparison is not valid. McCain is actually a man of character and principles (however misguided). Madame Flip-Flop Mitt is not worthy to be a bead of sweat rolling down between John McCain's wrinkly buttcheecks.
Exactly....McCain imho is not a bad guy at all no matter how misguided he is and I'd say if he'd not listened to bad advice by the RNC and left that talking horse's ass in Alaska where she should have stayed and picked a viable running mate,he would have been POTUS today.
Not saying he is POTUS material,but he would have been hard to beat even with Bush being the douche he was.
Sane fiscal conservatives understand that the number one goal is retiring Obama, not slobbing the nob of a 70 year old gynecologist and career politician who has never passed a major piece of legislation in his long, long life in Washington.
Sane fiscal conservatives know that Dr. Paul is the only one who really wants to shrink the size of the federal government. The record of the rest is an ever growing and encroaching federal government. In other words more of the same.The classic definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
(1) Republicans don't love any single candidate. If they did, that person would win the majority of the vote.
(2) In principle, the Tea Party should be anti-everyone in the race right now. All of them are either establishment (although how Mitt is the 'establishment' candidate is something I don't quite understand, and just because the media says so, doesn't make it a fact). I have said from Day 1 that the Tea Party should have their own party and stop trying to hang onto Republicans.
(3) In NH Mitt Romney won over the lower income group, as well as the higher income group. Secondly, many in the 'lower income group' also are in the 'young' group, which means that more likely support Ron Paul. If the argument is then that lower income voters are important, then the Republicans would be embracing Ron Paul.
(4) That is (almost) entirely false. In poll after poll against Obama, Romney attracts many independent voters. In fact, that is his main reason for statistically tying or beating Obama in the General Election polls.
Why do you believe the tea party should be anti-Paul? After all, Paul pioneered the whole tea party movement in 2007 ... before he did it, no one did(since the Boston incident) ... you people are so out of touch with reality. The tea party as it exists today has been co-opted by the Koch brothers ... Billionaire Brother Bastards! Their name will be always a curse on the lips of honest people ...
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Exactly....McCain imho is not a bad guy at all no matter how misguided he is and I'd say if he'd not listened to bad advice by the RNC and left that talking horse's ass in Alaska where she should have stayed and picked a viable running mate,he would have been POTUS today.
