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Old 02-23-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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Primaries are mostly proportional allocation this time around, as opposed to Winner-Takes-All. So even if you don't come in 1st, you do get delegates. So your statement that Paul won't win a single one of those is false.

P.S: You in particular, spread a lot of misinformation on C-D about delegates. Last time it was your claim about 600-700 superdelegates, when there are only 117. If you don't know the process, please ask. Please don't spread falsehoods.
I was talking about unbound delegates--not super delegates--there's a difference, and the combined number of super delegates and unbound delgates is just under 500 (I admitted that I was off on the total for this round--the rules change, and I accidentally called them all superdelegates in a post and later corrected myself) You are correct that the R's have 117 super delegates. Before you get your panties in a wad and start challenging information, it helps to make sure that YOU know what you're talking about.

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You are also correct that the March primaries are proportional. I live in a state with a later primary, so to be honest, I haven't paid attention. I asked the question--there's no need to be nasty about it.

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Old 02-23-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I actually prefer CNN for election news...I rarely watch FOX anymore...Usually CNN nowadays.
and watching only one network will give you a good overall view? At least you are not saying you watch MSNBC.

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Old 02-23-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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I like CNN because of the board thing they use for the election days. Its fun to see.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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Yes. John King did say that after the debate in Arizona last night. Ron Paul is second in delegates and will have enough to win the nomination
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I dont know the answers to all your questions but from what i do know-

Yes he gets delegates from supporters. Some states also give our delegates based on position in the voting. Winner gets the most then 2nd gets less etc. So he earns delegates in states he doesnt win.
But remember, causus delegates, for the most part are not binding.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Here's where I'm not sure what some of you Paul supporters are saying. If I have this wrong, correct me, but it sounds like in states where Paul did not win the caucus, Paul supporters "stayed late" to get elected to the state convention? I know the rules vary state by state on delegates by candidate, but the national delegates will be elected at the state convention, and they're almost always well connected republicans. I'm confused how some of you think that electing people to the state convention is going to get you to the national? I'm not trying to beat up on you--I think I'm missing something here. I can't imagine that you have enough Paul county delegates in each state to pull a coup at the state conventions to send your people on.

That's what it sounds like. TRMS has been covering this and trying to explain it for a while. I still don't get it and worst, it all sounds very underhanded to me.


Rachel Maddow Explains Why Ron Paul Sees Delegates From His Delusions | Nuts and Dolts
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:19 PM
 
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That's what it sounds like. TRMS has been covering this and trying to explain it for a while. I still don't get it and worst, it all sounds very underhanded to me.


Rachel Maddow Explains Why Ron Paul Sees Delegates From His Delusions | Nuts and Dolts
Thanks--I've had some major health issues since last summer so I'm following this primary from my sofa vs. working it. If that's what the Paul people are actually doing, it's sleezy.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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Thanks--I've had some major health issues since last summer so I'm following this primary from my sofa vs. working it. If that's what the Paul people are actually doing, it's sleezy.
It's perfectly legit. If Romney and Santorum don't have the delegates, then Ron Paul wins.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:21 PM
 
Location: NC
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I was talking about unbound delegates--not super delegates--there's a difference, and the combined number of super delegates and unbound delgates is just under 500 (I admitted that I was off on the total for this round--the rules change) You are correct that the R's have 117 super delegates.
You were specifically talking about superdelegates.

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I asked the question--there's no need to be nasty about it.
You didn't ask a question. Re-read your post again. You were posting as if it was a fact. I am not being nasty. I was trying to be civil the best way I can, while still correcting you. I'm sorry if you got hurt.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:25 PM
 
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It's perfectly legit. If Romney and Santorum don't have the delegates, then Ron Paul wins.
Just because it follows a loophole in the rules doesn't make it right--is that what we've come down to? Paul isn't going to get the nomination, but if by some crazy fluke he did (a meteor could hit my house and kill me in my living room too--what are the odds?) the general would be over the day he was nominated. Is that what you want?
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