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Old 04-25-2012, 09:19 AM
 
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Ron Paul Wins Washington, On Track to Be Nominated at 2012 GOP Convention

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Old 04-25-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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How did he 'win' Washington'? The article says he picked up 11 delegates there.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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Ron Paul 2012 Wins Iowa & Minnesota Delegates, Demonstrating Possible Path to White House [VIDEO] - International Business Times

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"Fourteen of the 28 delegates [in Iowa] -- half the delegates -- are his. He will not get less than half. So Ron Paul will either wins Iowa, or worst-case scenario, he ties for first place,"
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"And, while we're on the subject, looks like Ron Paul just won Minnesota, too. Minnesota has 40 delegates total, this weekend, Ron Paul won 20 of them. Now not all the rest of Minnesota's 40 delegates have been allocated yet, but with half of them locked up Ron Paul cannot come in worse than first. Worst-case scenario, Ron Paul can't come in worse than first in Minnesota.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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Most of those are states Santorum won, he's really mostly cutting into Santorum's delegate count moreso than Romney's. Romney will have cleared the 1144 threshold by enough that this will not effect him, but I wouldn't be shocked if Ron Paul were a distant 2nd place at the convention, ahead of Santorum and Gingrich.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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Most of those are states Santorum won, he's really mostly cutting into Santorum's delegate count moreso than Romney's. Romney will have cleared the 1144 threshold by enough that this will not effect him, but I wouldn't be shocked if Ron Paul were a distant 2nd place at the convention, ahead of Santorum and Gingrich.
Ron Paul is very much on track to change the course of this GOP presidential race, and win it all.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Romney currently has 724 hard delegates according to green papers. That means delegates that are directly tied to the results of the Primary or the Caucus states that were directly tied to the vote.

This does not include the delegates he did/will pick up from the other caucus states (even if Paul gets most of the delegates of those states, Romney will get some. This doesn't include the PA delegates, nor does it include RNC Superdelegates.

So based off the 724 delegates that are already bound to Romney on the first ballot no matterhow they personally feel + the Caucus delegates that Romney winds up with (even if small) + the PA delegates not yet figured into the equation + the RNC Superdelegates as well as the statesthat have yet to vote Romney is basicaly assured 1144 on the first ballot.

Even without including the delegates Romney will get from the Caucus states there is virtually no way to stop romney from reaching 1144 via the first ballot. Paul basically needs to win the vast majority of what is left to stop him from getting 1144 bound to Romney on the first ballot and California and Texas are absolute musts with the delegate allotment they have and the chances of that are virtally none.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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Romney currently has 724 hard delegates according to green papers. That means delegates that are directly tied to the results of the Primary or the Caucus states that were directly tied to the vote.

This does not include the delegates he did/will pick up from the other caucus states (even if Paul gets most of the delegates of those states, Romney will get some. This doesn't include the PA delegates, nor does it include RNC Superdelegates.

So based off the 724 delegates that are already bound to Romney on the first ballot no matterhow they personally feel + the Caucus delegates that Romney winds up with (even if small) + the PA delegates not yet figured into the equation + the RNC Superdelegates as well as the statesthat have yet to vote Romney is basicaly assured 1144 on the first ballot.

Even without including the delegates Romney will get from the Caucus states there is virtually no way to stop romney from reaching 1144 via the first ballot. Paul basically needs to win the vast majority of what is left to stop him from getting 1144 bound to Romney on the first ballot and California and Texas are absolute musts with the delegate allotment they have and the chances of that are virtally none.
Do you have a link to green papers? Because the true delgate count hasn't been tallied yet.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:16 AM
 
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Do you have a link to green papers? Because the true delgate count hasn't been tallied yet.
Do the math. Look at which states and Congressional Districts have bound delegates, look at who won, then add them up.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:42 AM
 
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Do the math. Look at which states and Congressional Districts have bound delegates, look at who won, then add them up.
Still no link. Those numbers are made up.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:46 AM
 
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Do you have a link to green papers? Because the true delgate count hasn't been tallied yet.
Can't get to the link now since I'm using my phone on my lunch break at work, but if you google green papers delegate count it will come up.

They break it down into a few different categories, they have a soft count which does include projections any RNC Superdelegates that have indicated who they support and results from caucus states that aren't tied directly to the vote. They also show a hard count, the hard count shows the amount of delegates each candidate has that are bound to that candidate on the first round of voting at the Convention. These delegates can vote, however they want in a 2nd round of voting, but are bound on the first ballot. That is where the 724 figure comes from.
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