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Old 06-18-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: NC
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What a pathetic situation this is.

The so-called "conservatives" are busy reminding everyone how Obama abused presidential powers, so it's alright if Romney does it too. The same "conservatives" who chided Obama for going into Libya without congressional approval. I still remember Sarah Palin going off on Fox about it. The so-called "conservatives" who "hate" UN, now dusts off UN resolutions to justify going off to war without the Congress.

The so-called "liberals" are busy reminding everyone how Obama is 0.0001% less of a warmonger than Romney is, because Romney now has Bush's foreign policy team. Obama really went on a path of peace without the evil Bush team around, right? Obama's master stroke really was the silencing of the anti-war, civil libertarian left. Now all the "liberals" need to look out for is more handouts, to justify their loyalty towards Obama.

Are there any real honest-to-goodness conservatives or liberals left in America anymore?
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Obama went before the UN and got that done? I thought that he was "leading from behind" on that while deliberately avoiding a vote in the US Congress, as he was afraid to appear before congress and make his case publicly and have it be open to debate.
The Libyan action was a stunning success especially when viewed against the abject failures of the Bush administration in the region. Libyan oil production is back strongly and the country is relatively quiet. I guess the obvious success that Obama has enjoyed in international affairs irritates the right such that they have to mischaracterize our involvement and diminish the credit that belongs to the Obama administration. Sorry, but people who know, know better.
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Lightbulb Megalomania...

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Politics - Conor Friedersdorf - Mitt Romney Says He Could Wage War on Iran Without Congress' Approval - The Atlantic

How reassuring! Please remind me why the war-weary public should vote for this jackass again?
Because he's rich and we "little people" shouldn't stand in his way.

After all, America owes it to him for his long record of...

of...

of... closing down American companies and firing thousands of workers while he cleaned up.

Never mind the fact that he never bothered to serve in the military. And neither did his five healthy sons. He wants to start another war because that's what "famous" presidents do. And "little people" are supposed to fight wars that wealthy important people profit from. At taxpayer expense. While they call it "capitalism."
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Politics - Conor Friedersdorf - Mitt Romney Says He Could Wage War on Iran Without Congress' Approval - The Atlantic

How reassuring! Please remind me why the war-weary public should vote for this jackass again?
What are they complaining about? Didn't obama do that very thing with Libya?

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And "little people" are supposed to fight wars that wealthy important people profit from.
Funny, didn't seem to bother you when obama waged an illegal war in Libya without Congressional approval..did it?

See, the Leftists who didn't squawk when obama did it really don't have a leg to stand on now.
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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The Libyan action was a stunning success especially when viewed against the abject failures of the Bush administration in the region. Libyan oil production is back strongly and the country is relatively quiet. I guess the obvious success that Obama has enjoyed in international affairs irritates the right such that they have to mischaracterize our involvement and diminish the credit that belongs to the Obama administration. Sorry, but people who know, know better.
Yes, Obama did well "leading from behind" and following Europe's lead to have a nice end result, but did congress vote on Libya? Does Obama lack confidence in his ability to persuade congress that he couldn't even try to persuade and have a vote?

Candidate Obama (2008) says that President Obama acted unconstitutionally. What do you think? Who is right, candidate Obama or flip flopping President Obama? Don't be mad, because I agree with candidate Obama and not President Obama. Is Obama's War on Libya Constitutional? - Robert Schlesinger (usnews.com)
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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Oh look, yet another misrepresentation from a Paulbot who is working 24/7 to re-elect Oblama.

Too bad you can't get a job in Oblama's economy; you would spend a lot less time spreading misinformation on the internets.
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:45 PM
 
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What a pathetic situation this is.

The so-called "conservatives" are busy reminding everyone how Obama abused presidential powers, so it's alright if Romney does it too. The same "conservatives" who chided Obama for going into Libya without congressional approval. I still remember Sarah Palin going off on Fox about it. The so-called "conservatives" who "hate" UN, now dusts off UN resolutions to justify going off to war without the Congress.

The so-called "liberals" are busy reminding everyone how Obama is 0.0001% less of a warmonger than Romney is, because Romney now has Bush's foreign policy team. Obama really went on a path of peace without the evil Bush team around, right? Obama's master stroke really was the silencing of the anti-war, civil libertarian left. Now all the "liberals" need to look out for is more handouts, to justify their loyalty towards Obama.

Are there any real honest-to-goodness conservatives or liberals left in America anymore?
Apparently, only you and Ron Paul.
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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What are they complaining about? Didn't obama do that very thing with Libya?



Funny, didn't seem to bother you when obama waged an illegal war in Libya without Congressional approval..did it?

See, the Leftists who didn't squawk when obama did it really don't have a leg to stand on now.
How dare you agree with Candidate Obama in 2008, he probably is a tea bagger racist that hates President Obama.

Is Obama's War on Libya Constitutional? - Robert Schlesinger (usnews.com)
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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What are they complaining about? Didn't obama do that very thing with Libya? No



Funny, didn't seem to bother you when obama waged an illegal war in Libya without Congressional approval..did it? since congress did nothing about it, why are you bothered by it?

See, the Leftists who didn't squawk when obama did it really don't have a leg to stand on now.
So does that mean you approve of Romney starting a war with Iran?
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:38 PM
 
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UNSC resolution 1973 says "Hi!" and reminds you that it authorized "all necessary means to protect civilians and civilian-populated areas" in Libya.
Thats not an answer to the question. Recap...
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That is beyond laughable. Can you tell me when he went before the UN to discuss international affairs and be diplomatic before attacking other nations?
Simply saying we need to do all necessary means to protect civilians is nothing new.
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