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Old 08-04-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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Actually, according to stats, it's the stupid non-college educated that vote dem. Look at the way obama and his fellow travelers speak to Americans. The intelligent pay no attention.

One can only conclude this is the block that make up the c-d lefties.
Do you have data to back that up? Everything I've seen shows that the D's get the majority of the advanced degree people, undergraduate level voters are fairly evenly split, and HS diploma or less working class divides between R and D, with an advantage for the R's with white working class or poor, and one for the D's with minority working class and poor. Both sides have had to dumb down their rhetoric to about a 6th grade level--it's not a party thing.
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Old 08-04-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Sorry. Romney's strongest demographic is middle-aged, white males with less than a graduate degree:

In Tight Race, Both Obama, Romney Have Core Support Groups

If you make it less than any degree, the percentage of Romney's staunchest supporters goes up.
There you go, spoiling a perfectly good myth by introducing those nasty things... what are those again? Oh, yeah, "facts."
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Women (of all colors) will be the difference that will give Obama another term. This week, women who start or renew contraceptive prescriptions will be getting them free of copays. They also will get checkups and mammograms without copays. Romney has pledged to take away this benefit from women on the first day he is office. Let's see how that goes over with this important demographic down the stretch.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:48 PM
 
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Wow. Republicans seem to want a race war in America. They've certainly been successful chasing out the non-whites from their party. Approximately 90% of Republicans are white. That's incredible for a country that is more and more diverse every year.

Republican primary electorate dominated by white, older voters | theGrio
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Yes, of all people, Liberal Obama is counting on voter suppression.....of the majority whites.

The handwriting on the wall, according to BuzzFeed, which reports:
President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign has spent more than $100 million on advertising over the last 3 months. Much, if not most, of it has been produced to shred Mitt Romney’s reputation and suppress turnout among white voters who might vote for Romney.
That last sentence is worth re-reading. It links to a New York Times op-ed that notes with equal candor, not to mention nonchalance:
He is running a two-track campaign. One track of his re-election drive seeks to boost turnout among core liberal groups; the other aims to suppress turnout and minimize his margin of defeat in the most hostile segment of the electorate, whites without college degrees.
It’s a simple matter of arithmetic, the BuzzFeed article goes on to note.

In 2008, black voter turnout reached its highest level ever. Hispanic and “youth” voters (ages 18 to 29) also turned out in record numbers. Obama captured 43% of the white vote, cinching a victory.

But with black unemployment reaching 14.4% in July and unemployment among millennials at 12.7%, enthusiasm is down. The dreaded “white vote” is now expected to account for 75% of ballots cast.
By most analysts’ lights, Obama needs to capture 40% of that voting bloc to win a second term. But a Quinnipiac poll released on July 12 shows him attracting just 29% of non-college-educated white males. Taken together with other recent polls, Obama’s share of the white vote as a whole is well shy of the 40% threshold.
Even if that were true, it's not like the Repubs don't try their darnndest to suppress the minority turnout.
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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Wow. Republicans seem to want a race war in America. They've certainly been successful chasing out the non-whites from their party. Approximately 90% of Republicans are white. That's incredible for a country that is more and more diverse every year.

Republican primary electorate dominated by white, older voters | theGrio
It all points to the fact the Republican are swimming against the demographic tide that will eventually either force them to change or they will be swept away.

If they don't win this year presidential election they core constituents represent less and less of America with each passing year. By 2020 without a significant change in the party platform they are really going to struggle in national elections.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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It all points to the fact the Republican are swimming against the demographic tide that will eventually either force them to change or they will be swept away.

If they don't win this year presidential election they core constituents represent less and less of America with each passing year. By 2020 without a significant change in the party platform they are really going to struggle in national elections.
Don't underestimate the GOP. Their policies for many decades has been to represent the upper 1% against the bottom 99% in income. If voting was self-interest, the GOP would never win any election.

Yet, they seem to have mastered the ability to convince a large part of the voter block to vote against their own self-interest. They do this with wedge issues, like gays and guns and cloud the economic knowledge with myths, like lowering taxes yields more government revenue.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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Yet, they seem to have mastered the ability to convince a large part of the voter block to vote against their own self-interest. They do this with wedge issues, like gays and guns and cloud the economic knowledge with myths, like lowering taxes yields more government revenue.
They definitely got my brother bamboozled as before Obama came along you couldnt find a guy less interested in politics,now thats all he talks about, Limbaugh,Beck and FOX are on the tv or radio just about all the time and theres videos and taping s for those slower moments, the guy has a low paying job a wife who doesnt work and 3 delinquent kids, the family has no health insurance but he hates Obamacare, he has no savings for retirement but hates social security, he lives in a dilapidated trailer out in the sticks in Fla and could probably qualify for food stamps but food stamps are a socialist evil thing yet he has no problem mooching thousands of dollars off Mom and Dad when he needs money, as for me living up in Canada? i'm referred to as the family communist living in a nanny state even though i broke from Mom and Dads purse strings back in 1965 and made a solid life for myself and family..The bro represents a demographic that has come down with some form of rightwing collective dementia as he lives life like the very poor and needy he is constantly complaining about yet espouses extreme rightwing ideology.

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Old 08-04-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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They definitely got my brother bamboozled as before Obama came along you couldnt find a guy less interested in politics,now thats all he talks about, Limbaugh,Beck and FOX are on the tv or radio just about all the time and theres videos and taping s for those slower moments, the guy has a low paying job a wife who doesnt work and 3 delinquent kids, the family has no health insurance but he hates Obamacare, he has no savings for retirement but hates social security, he lives in a dilapidated trailer out in the sticks in Fla and could probably qualify for food stamps but food stamps are a socialist evil thing yet he has no problem mooching thousands of dollars off Mom and Dad when he needs money, as for me living up in Canada? i'm referred to as the family communist living in a nanny state even though i broke from Mom and Dads purse strings back in 1965 and made a solid life for myself and family..The bro represents a demographic that has come down with some form of rightwing collective dementia as he lives life like the very poor and needy he is constantly complaining about yet espouses extreme rightwing ideology.
Your brother sure is deluded. In my line of work, I come across many white Anglo people that are getting their Medicare Part B premium paid for by the State and sometimes Full Dual Medicaid. Yet they still insist that they are Repubs and will vote for the Repub candidate. They are very comical.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:07 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Yes, of all people, Liberal Obama is counting on voter suppression.....of the majority whites.

The handwriting on the wall, according to BuzzFeed, which reports:
President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign has spent more than $100 million on advertising over the last 3 months. Much, if not most, of it has been produced to shred Mitt Romney’s reputation and suppress turnout among white voters who might vote for Romney.

That last sentence is worth re-reading. It links to a New York Times op-ed that notes with equal candor, not to mention nonchalance:
He is running a two-track campaign. One track of his re-election drive seeks to boost turnout among core liberal groups; the other aims to suppress turnout and minimize his margin of defeat in the most hostile segment of the electorate, whites without college degrees.

It’s a simple matter of arithmetic, the BuzzFeed article goes on to note.

In 2008, black voter turnout reached its highest level ever. Hispanic and “youth” voters (ages 18 to 29) also turned out in record numbers. Obama captured 43% of the white vote, cinching a victory.

But with black unemployment reaching 14.4% in July and unemployment among millennials at 12.7%, enthusiasm is down. The dreaded “white vote” is now expected to account for 75% of ballots cast.
By most analysts’ lights, Obama needs to capture 40% of that voting bloc to win a second term. But a Quinnipiac poll released on July 12 shows him attracting just 29% of non-college-educated white males. Taken together with other recent polls, Obama’s share of the white vote as a whole is well shy of the 40% threshold.
What about the blacks you served with? You think this attitude is welcomed?
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