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Did you guys never go to school? That's not how you ask a question. These people were yelling, talking over Ryan, etc, and just being downright rude. There are much more polite ways of asking such questions. I would expect a conservative behaving so immaturely at a liberal town hall to be escorted out as well. Basic etiquette
And I am just as against it when the tea party does it, but it seems of late it's mostly the left doing it (and you know what? 3 years ago it was a lot of people on the right and that got me even angrier because I couldn't believe those people were representing my side of the aisle. Maybe it's my bias, but I do seem to notice this behavior coming from the left more often though).
In todays world of shooting sprees and craziness, if you go to a public event like this and start acting stupid and heckling someone who obviously has Secret Service all around them, you can expect to be escorted out. How stupid would it be to leave someone acting out like that in the crowd? This is not even intelligent. This applies to anyone at anyone's event regardless. There are better and more mature ways to exercise your freedom of speech.
Yeah like that crazy tea bagger who showed up to a Obama event armed to the teeth side arm strapped to his leg Assault rifle over shoulder and claiming he had a right to do so ???
Heckling ??? Oh you mean like That other teabagger Congressman Joe Wilson heckling President Obama at the state of the union address ??
In todays world of shooting sprees and craziness, if you go to a public event like this and start acting stupid and heckling someone who obviously has Secret Service all around them, you can expect to be escorted out. How stupid would it be to leave someone acting out like that in the crowd? This is not even intelligent. This applies to anyone at anyone's event regardless. There are better and more mature ways to exercise your freedom of speech.
Yes, why can't they act with the decorum shown by the tea partiers during the health care town halls? Heckling a politician is as old as American democracy itself. In days gone by crowds were known to bring vegetables to throw at candidates and more than one has been hauled out on a rail (as seen in Wherefore art thou, Brother).
Heckling ??? Oh you mean like That other teabagger Congressman Joe Wilson heckling President Obama at the state of the union address ??
While I find that to be extremely immature (though I do like Joe Wilson, and he's not generally very extreme, so that was definitely surprising), I would expect it to be too much of a scene to remove a Congressman for just saying two words. He wasn't interrupting Obama, there was no disruption of the speech. It was just immature.
As for the guy with the gun, how was he disrupting anything? If he were shouting over Obama, he should indeed have been thrown out. But he was minding his own business. No doubt he was probably an a-hole, but he wasn't preventing Obama's rally from moving forward.
You picked some big apples to oranges comparisons.
Here's what it comes down to: If you go to a Town Hall and ask a question, then just talk over the Congressman as they try to answer, you clearly don't actually have any genuine interest in getting an answer. Furthermore, each representative has lots of questions from lots of constituents at any given town hall and they don't have time for a one-on-one dialogue or debate with any one person. So if you can't accept when your turn is over and choose to make a scene, you should be thrown out. I don't care what side of the aisle you are on. It's as simple as that to me.
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Funny how the hysterical "keep guvmint off our back" crowd, who apparently see "tyranny" and "big brother" everywhere, are always the very first ones to defend any kind of police oppression!
What, so Ryan didn't even have enough presence of mind or affinity for his own constituents, to at least try and "talk 'em down"...? "Sorry, what's your name?", "OK, I'm listening sir, please repeat your question again", etc. Not to mention, it was strictly choreographed so that only Ryan got to talk.... what's up with that?
And at best, what kind of so-called "skilled speaker" can't even cope with a few hecklers without calling in the troops every time?! Or what's he gonna do, have Biden arrested if he speaks "out of turn"?!
"Romney/Ryan 2012... just don't ask questions, it's for your own good!"
While I find that to be extremely immature (though I do like Joe Wilson, and he's not generally very extreme, so that was definitely surprising), I would expect it to be too much of a scene to remove a Congressman for just saying two words. He wasn't interrupting Obama, there was no disruption of the speech. It was just immature.
As for the guy with the gun, how was he disrupting anything? If he were shouting over Obama, he should indeed have been thrown out. But he was minding his own business. No doubt he was probably an a-hole, but he wasn't preventing Obama's rally from moving forward.
You picked some big apples to oranges comparisons.
Here's what it comes down to: If you go to a Town Hall and ask a question, then just talk over the Congressman as they try to answer, you clearly don't actually have any genuine interest in getting an answer. Furthermore, each representative has lots of questions from lots of constituents at any given town hall and they don't have time for a one-on-one dialogue or debate with any one person. So if you can't accept when your turn is over and choose to make a scene, you should be thrown out. I don't care what side of the aisle you are on. It's as simple as that to me.
Hecklers interfere with the freedom of speech of the speaker and interfere with those who came to listen. Rude is rude.
Funny how the hysterical "keep guvmint off our back" crowd, who apparently see "tyranny" and "big brother" everywhere, are always the very first ones to defend any kind of police oppression!
What, so Ryan didn't even have enough presence of mind or affinity for his own constituents, to at least try and "talk 'em down"...? "Sorry, what's your name?", "OK, I'm listening sir, please repeat your question again", etc. Not to mention, it was strictly choreographed so that only Ryan got to talk.... what's up with that?
And at best, what kind of so-called "skilled speaker" can't even cope with a few hecklers without calling in the troops every time?! Or what's he gonna do, have Biden arrested if he speaks "out of turn"?!
"Romney/Ryan 2012... just don't ask questions, it's for your own good!"
I suspect that, before long, Romney/Ryan will adopt the Bush '43 strategy: Blockade any protesters so that they're kept well away from the speaking engagement, then only answer questions that have been previewed by their staffs. Arresting dissenters is an oppressive tactic, particularly when they're older constituents who don't require being wrestled to the floor and handcuffed. These are actions one might expect in a banana republic, not in a country founded on the freedom to dissent and the right to have concerns addressed. Elected officials are servants who govern by the will of the people...they are not nobility, to be protected from providing answers when questioned by the people for whom they ostensibly work.
What are you liberals so upset about? Obama's leadership style is as follows: I'm right. You're wrong. You're not just wrong, you're too stupid to know what's right for yourself. You will be subject to whatever I want you to be subject to whether you like it or not. I am the smartest. I am the greatest. Never question anything I do, because I am right and always will be. If you disagree, you will be ignored and probably removed from whatever the situation might be. If we find out beforehand that you will be disagreeing with me, you will not be allowed into the situation to begin with. If what I am doing is determined to be too controversial, the meeting will be held behind closed doors with no media allowed. Then I can be my true crazy self.
Welcome to Paul Ryan's America. Sit down and shut up, you have no right to speak to your elected officials.
Romney is just a jellyfish with no backbone who will contort to fit whatever mold will get him a vote, but Ryan is truly scary. This kind of stuff needs to be disseminated far and wide.
Romney will put and end to obama's America
H.R. 347, which Obama quietly signed into law on March 8, to criminalize protests and clamp down on the First Amendment rights of free speech and freedom to assemble.
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