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Old 09-20-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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Again, so we agree, both main party candidates suck balls, and are crooked politicians that can't be trusted.

So again, why should you vote for either of them? Are you voting against one or the other? Why not pick someone to vote for? There are third party candidates.

Gary Johnson, the Libertarian (3rd place) candidate says he would die for us! He wants to get back our Constitutional freedoms we had 100+ years ago, plus stop deficit spending & abolish the IRS. He would do all he could to re-legalize "marijuana" (cannabis).

Recent anecdotal reports say they cannabis oil can cure cancer or other possibly fatal illnesses. Why does Obama & Romney oppose this? Is it special interest money that buys our disabilities and deaths? Gary Johnson doesn't owe any special interest group anything. That's an automatic several billions saved over Obama or Romney, plus better health & longer lives. Gary says try a 1 time experiment. Elect him & if people don't like the freedom, peace & prosperity, in 4 years we can re-elect tyranny.

60% say they've nothing in common with Obama. 75% say they have nothing in common with Romney. I think people should vote for whom they agree with the most. The voter test ISideWith dot com now shows your % of agreement with the top 6 presidential candidates. Voter guides like votesmart dot org show complete lists of presidential candidates, and info on candidates for Congress & state legislatures.
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Old 09-20-2012, 06:50 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Why should the the voters want Romney when his own party doesn't want him.
Pawlenty has jumped ship. John Kasich, Scott Brown, Linda McMahon , etc, etc are running from Romneys 47% remarks and many more are holding their breath for Mitt's next blunder.
It will only be time now before Romney's superpac turn their attention to the Senate and House seats..... dumping Romney for a more viable race.
I am loving watching Republican candidates grimace when asked if they agree with Romney remarks and views and their brain noticeably going 100 mph to try to give a answer that doen't make them look against Romney but not tying themselves to his remarks............... wow.
So if anyone wants ANOTHER reason NOT to vote for Romney..... well if his party is having trouble trying to support him then why should anyone else support him?

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Old 09-20-2012, 06:53 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Good to know.
His supporters and shills have ZERO factual info to post here.

newsflash: this isnt fox news, the audience is more savvy and requires facts, not red herrings.

The dumbed down masses are already on your side GOP, but you forgot the rest of the Independents and people with a brain (as usual)
I really have tried to watch Fox news to see if i have Romney wrong but watching Hannity or O'Reilly and hearing the lies and complete B/S i soon turn them off.
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Old 09-20-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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Honestly, there won't be a largely noticeable difference between an Obama presidency and a Romney presidency. Neither candidate has the magic bullet for economic growth and prosperity. They'll still both be a mere cog in the machine that is the federal government. Presidents have power, but not enough to drastically change the country the way they claim.

Presidents are first and foremost the representative of the American people. I have found Romney to be spineless, self serving, dishonest and weak, not to mention he offended a lot of our closest allies during the Olympics. Obama has shown more character and he has a better relationship with other world leaders, which will help us on the international stage. And he's just a nice guy. Sometimes you really should vote for the guy you'd like to have a beer with.
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Old 09-20-2012, 06:57 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Honestly, there won't be a largely noticeable difference between an Obama presidency and a Romney presidency. Neither candidate has the magic bullet for economic growth and prosperity. They'll still both be a mere cog in the machine that is the federal government. Presidents have power, but not enough to drastically change the country the way they claim.

Presidents are first and foremost the representative of the American people. I have found Romney to be spineless, self serving, dishonest and weak, not to mention he offended a lot of our closest allies during the Olympics. Obama has shown more character and he has a better relationship with other world leaders, which will help us on the international stage. And he's just a nice guy. Sometimes you really should vote for the guy you'd like to have a beer with.
Absolutely!
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:34 PM
 
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Default At least 4 on ballot most states

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Since OP is a Romney shill its a little late for he/she/it thinking Indeps and undecideds are so stupid they will vote GOP.

I think Independents & undecided would vote Gary Johnson (LP), Dr. Jill Stein (GP), Rocky Anderson (JP), or Virgil Goode (CP), *if* they get much of their news from internet, but suppose that's doubtful?

Those who only read censored MSM news almost always vote Dem or Rep. But even many years ago, Minnesotans elected a wrestler, Jesse Ventura (Independence Party) who won because he's honest, using a low budget internet campaign that attracted many young & 1st time voters. Now even more are on the computer & there is even more info, so now, IMO, predicting a winner isn't quite as easy.

ISideWith dot com shows your best match among top 6 presidential candidates.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:39 PM
 
Location: NC
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If you take obama completely out of the equation (I know that is hard), why would you just absolutely never vote for Romney?
Because he is a giant unknown. I have no idea what his actual core beliefs are, if he has any, and he is basically a giant empty suit. I like voting for people who I have a grasp on what they believe even if I don't necessarily agree (thus why I would vote for Gingrich before Romney). It is simply that I don't trust anything about him.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:43 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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Why should the the voters want Romney when his own party doesn't want him.
Pawlenty has jumped ship. John Kasich, Scott Brown, Linda McMahon , etc, etc are running from Romneys 47% remarks and many more are holding their breath for Mitt's next blunder.
It will only be time now before Romney's superpac turn their attention to the Senate and House seats..... dumping Romney for a more viable race.
I am loving watching Republican candidates grimace when asked if they agree with Romney remarks and views and their brain noticeably going 100 mph to try to give a answer that doen't make them look against Romney but not tying themselves to his remarks............... wow.
So if anyone wants ANOTHER reason NOT to vote for Romney..... well if his party is having trouble trying to support him then why should anyone else support him?
Even kingmaker Club For Growth doesn't much care for him...

Club For Growth President Warns Romney Hasn't Proven Conservative Bona Fides

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Club for Growth President Chris Chocola, a key free-market voice, Thursday warned that Mitt Romney hasn’t made the case that he is a “pro-growth” candidate and that his positions on free trade and other issues have given conservatives pause this year.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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Someone who is a venture capitalist that has high hopes in being the President should release substantial tax records.

A venture capitalist that has high hopes in being the President should avoid parking the bulk of their fortune in foreign banks while not releasing their tax records to the public.

A venture capitalist that has high hopes in being the President should avoid being part of outsourcing thousands, perhaps millions of american jobs to 3rd world and communist countries while depositing the bulk of his profits in foreign banks and not releasing his tax records to the public to view.

Say what you mean and mean what you say. Stop with the double talk.

Stop placing yourself on a pedestal above half of the US population.

When you insult the 47% of Americans you are insulting employees of companies you have had a hand in creating, by and large low paying jobs for Americans, while not releasing your tax records for the lowlife public to view.


And a college professor who graduated with honors should release his college records.

A person who attended a racist church with a racist pastor for twenty years should have a better excuse for attending a racist church with a racist pastor for twenty years than conveniently missing all the Sundays when the racists sermons were preached and the racist congregation cheered with approval upon hearing the racist rants of the racist pastor.

And while I was satisfied with Obama's birth announcements in two Hawaiian newspapers as proof of his eligibility to hold the office of president, he should be able to produce a long-form birth certificate without stalling and stalling before producing one that raised more questions than it answered.

Outsourcing?

Do you think Romney is responsible for more Americans losing their jobs to Mexicans and Chinese workers than Clinton who signed NAFTA and lobbied for and signed the 2000 China Trade Act?

How about the outsourcing that goes on here in America thanks to Obama's refusal to enforce existing immigration laws?

Maybe, if the administration is serious about creating jobs for Americans, Obama's chairman of the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of a company that routinely imports foreign workers with H1B visas to take six-figure jobs away from Americans, pays zero US taxes and outsources to China whenever possible, shouldn't be administration's jobs czar.


"Unfortunately for America’s workers, men like President Obama put their faith and trust in people like Jeff Immelt. And CEO’s like Jeff Immelt admittedly pledge their loyalties not to their country or their countrymen, but instead to maximizing profits for their corporate shareholders. If higher profits come at the price of devastating their country, so be it. As Jeff Immelt has said himself, GE has a second home in China."

Jobs Czar Sends American Jobs to China


As for those tax returns, Romney is correct to release only the last two years since the whole thing is just a fishing exposition by a fatally flawed incumbent desperately seeking to change the subject from his record of consistent and perpetual failure.

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Old 09-20-2012, 09:07 PM
 
Location: AL
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Again, so we agree, both main party candidates suck balls, and are crooked politicians that can't be trusted.

So again, why should you vote for either of them? Are you voting against one or the other? Why not pick someone to vote for? There are third party candidates.

Because if you vote for a 3rd party...Obumer will win...thats why.
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