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Old 09-20-2012, 07:21 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Namely one distraction and diversion after another. An endless series of dumbed-down mini-controversies tailor-made for MSM trolls.

• A demand by a 30-year-old law student for legislation that would require others to pay for her birth control somehow morphs into a 'war on women.'

•The brouhaha over Romneys tax returns.

•The sudden immaculate conversion on gay marriage from Pres. Obama.

•The controversy over Paul Ryan's marathon time.

•Other mini-controversies too numerous to list, such as Romney's comments about the Olympics, Ann Romney's horse, Romney's comments about the terrorist attack in Libya, etc.

•The latest, of course, namely Romney's questioning of where we are going with 47% of tax filers paying zero taxes. Even the WaPo thinks this is a tempest in a tea-pot:
Romney’s ’47 percent’ comment and the importance of the echo chamber


It's a smart campaign, no doubt, when you've got 8.3 percent uemployment, fewer jobs than in 2009, black unemployment thru the roof, median household income down by 5%, $16 trillion in debt, gas prices more than doubled, and one in six Americans or thereabouts on food stamps. And the area surrounding Washington DC now the richest region (by household income) in the nation, surpassing Silicon Valley.

Credit where credit is due...well done, Team Obama; gotta hand it to you.
Gee the same shtick as umpteen other threads.
Yes, credit where it is due - seemingly with no viable argument from the opposition except whining about the last four years out of decades of repub trickle-down. You are aware from other threads that unemployment was rising in 2008 thanks to repub Wall Street buddies and repub outsourcing, then peaked at 10% in 2009.
Yes, exposing right-wing lies and distortions is a smart thing to do. Exposing repub trickle-down for what it is and what it has done to the country is more than smart - it's about time!
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:28 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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So whatever happened to "any sock puppet can beat Obama", "Ryan's a game-changer", "I predict Obama will lose in a landslide", or my fav, that Mitt's "business success" was somehow supposed to translate to politics too?!!
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:35 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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So whatever happened to "any sock puppet can beat Obama", "Ryan's a game-changer", "I predict Obama will lose in a landslide", or my fav, that Mitt's "business success" was somehow supposed to translate to politics too?!!
Keep reading. There are "Romney landsliders" still here...
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by wutitiz View Post
Namely one distraction and diversion after another. An endless series of dumbed-down mini-controversies tailor-made for MSM trolls.

• A demand by a 30-year-old law student for legislation that would require others to pay for her birth control somehow morphs into a 'war on women.'

•The brouhaha over Romneys tax returns.

•The sudden immaculate conversion on gay marriage from Pres. Obama.

•The controversy over Paul Ryan's marathon time.

•Other mini-controversies too numerous to list, such as Romney's comments about the Olympics, Ann Romney's horse, Romney's comments about the terrorist attack in Libya, etc.

•The latest, of course, namely Romney's questioning of where we are going with 47% of tax filers paying zero taxes. Even the WaPo thinks this is a tempest in a tea-pot:
[url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/09/19/romneys-47-percent-comment-and-the-importance-of-the-echo-chamber/?hpid=z3"]Romney’s ’47 percent’ comment and the importance of the echo chamber[/URL


It's a smart campaign, no doubt, when you've got 8.3 percent uemployment, fewer jobs than in 2009, black unemployment thru the roof, median household income down by 5%, $16 trillion in debt, gas prices more than doubled, and one in six Americans or thereabouts on food stamps. And the area surrounding Washington DC now the richest region (by household income) in the nation, surpassing Silicon Valley.

Credit where credit is due...well done, Team Obama; gotta hand it to you.


Obama ran a great campaign in 2008. We got an incompetent, inept president. Enough said
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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This is it.

0boy's handlers are smart (cunning and evil) and Romney's are dumber than a box of rocks.

There was a time in America where people thought for themselves and were able to figure out this stuff. These days, not so much. 0boy's minions are the dumbest of all to not be able to sort stuff out without the help of the likes of Matthews, MadCow, Lawrence, et al. They watch MSNBC and consider themselves smarter. That's a very sad state of the union.

Oboy's people have kept Mitt running and twirling to try to get away from stupidity, but he doesn't seem to be able to shake off the crap, one turd immediately after the last.
Maybe if Romney would stop cramming his foot down his mouth, none of this would keep happening to him.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:39 PM
 
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A great comparison would be the 1988 campaign. It was a race that Dukakis or any Democrat should have won. George Bush had taken huge hits for his involvement in Iran Contra, and a democratic administration might have tried to prosecute him. Dukakis was leading early in the race, but the Bush campaign turned the election into a referendum on a number of wedge issues like flag burning, the pledge of allegiance and crime. Bush didn't have much to offer on his own and his team knew that if the election was about him, he would lose. They had to make it a referendum on "liberal values." Michael Dukakis (who really wasn't even that liberal) was smeared by Bush before he had a chance to define himself.

It's similar today. The GOP has moved pretty far to the right and has embraced a number of extreme positions. In a way, they had to. The hard right, "anybody but Obama crowd" has proven to be the lifeblood of the Republican party in the past four years, and the party really played to them during the midterms to win seats. It worked, but it also boxed them in. The higher ups in the GOP really wanted to present a more moderate image for this years elections, but the ideologues who now steer the ship have forced Mitt to pander to them.

As a result, the new crop of Republicans have given the Obama campaign many many opportunities to paint Romney and his party as extreme, and it looks like it's working. So in a way, this election is a referendum on a lot of "conservative values" which clearly aren't as popular as they used to be.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:43 PM
 
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Hmmm...seems the other side does the same exact thing:

The brouhaha over Obama's birth certificate

The sudden issue (lie) that Obama was born in Kenya

The controversy over Obama's dad being a muslim

Other mini controversies too numerous to list, such as Obama flirting with another woman. The fact that Obama smokes cigarettes, etc.


And we could go on and on and on for both sides. But you must be too stupid to see it.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:45 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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Hmmm...seems the other side does the same exact thing:

The brouhaha over Obama's birth certificate

The sudden issue (lie) that Obama was born in Kenya

The controversy over Obama's dad being a muslim

Other mini controversies too numerous to list, such as Obama flirting with another woman. The fact that Obama smokes cigarettes, etc.

And we could go on and on and on for both sides. But you must be too stupid to see it.
Sssssssh!

The more wrong lessons they take from 2012, the less likely they'll be to solve those problems next time around...
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Thanks for reminding me about the 'firing people' hubub, FrugalYankee, that's one I had forgotten. If you listen to Romney's comment in context, it is a good point. If a store, contractor, cell-phone provider, etc, screws you over, don't you want to be able to fire them? Or do you just want to sit there and take a repeated spanking? That's all Mitt was saying, but you knew that.

That was yet another example.
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As long as Mitt is repeating "you didn't build that" Reps have no right whatsoever to complain about out of context statements.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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Obama is simply doing better because he's running a better campaign. The national debt and structural problems of the economy and government are not solely Obama's fault. It's a culmination of decades of policy choices. Romney is just running on Obama is bad, so pick me. Voters don't seem to be buying it.
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